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Originally posted by Z:
Also, I prefer to think in terms of unsteady conditions. So if a car is cornering neutrally around a skid-pad (say), then it has the inwardly directed resultant tyre force LoA (from all four tyres) passing through the NSP, and this is in balance with the outwardly directed centrifugal force from the CG, which is also at the NSP. Now if the driver gradually increases speed (with same steer angle), then both the centrifugal and tyre forces also increase. But if, as the tyres approach "saturation", the pneumatic trail decreases, then the resultant of the tyre forces moves forward, and this together with the centrifugal force forms an over-steering yaw couple. So the tail starts sliding outward.
I follow you, and I do agree that the Mz would make up a large