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John Lankes
11-08-2006, 05:57 PM
After playing with Ricardo for a while, and reading just about every post on Wave, it seems to me that just about everyone is using some kind of work-around to get the restrictor to behave. I just can't get over the fact that the you should be able to plug in a simple convergent-divergent duct, and obtain a choke flow condition (which seemingly doesn't happen).

This same problem was confirmed with some Pro-motorsports fellows who had run into the same problem in Wave, but were able to fix it. The engineer I spoke with wasn't able to remember the fix, but recalled it had something to do with a simple change in the modeling.

likewise, I know in Virtual 4-stroke there are some problems with convergence once the air in a duct aproaches sonic, and I have heard there a few different solvers to combat this.

Does anyone know the trick in Ricardo to make the mass-flow rate choke? (I already know the work-arounds, like variable orfice, stepped diffusers, and force feeding pressure drops)

John Lankes
11-08-2006, 05:57 PM
After playing with Ricardo for a while, and reading just about every post on Wave, it seems to me that just about everyone is using some kind of work-around to get the restrictor to behave. I just can't get over the fact that the you should be able to plug in a simple convergent-divergent duct, and obtain a choke flow condition (which seemingly doesn't happen).

This same problem was confirmed with some Pro-motorsports fellows who had run into the same problem in Wave, but were able to fix it. The engineer I spoke with wasn't able to remember the fix, but recalled it had something to do with a simple change in the modeling.

likewise, I know in Virtual 4-stroke there are some problems with convergence once the air in a duct aproaches sonic, and I have heard there a few different solvers to combat this.

Does anyone know the trick in Ricardo to make the mass-flow rate choke? (I already know the work-arounds, like variable orfice, stepped diffusers, and force feeding pressure drops)

Julio_93
11-09-2006, 02:53 AM
We also have the same condition accouring in our model. According to our hand calcs we get choked flow at about 10,500 rpm, but in Ricardo the restrictor never reaches mach 1. Does anyone know a cure for this?

Mach Number
07-31-2011, 05:38 PM
can you tell the mass flow rate at chocked condition.. @ Julio .. How can we exactly model the restrictor in wave.. We are facing hurdle in wave build to make the restrictor..
Thanks