Nationals 2006

[Neil S]

Speaking of Nationals, who all is planning to go this year?

UMR is planning to be there, I'm sure KU will be there again even though it is a long drive for them.

UTA you are going right? Who will be driving this year (Kohler is not an acceptable answer)?

[Neil S]

Speaking of Nationals, who all is planning to go this year?

UMR is planning to be there, I'm sure KU will be there again even though it is a long drive for them.

UTA you are going right? Who will be driving this year (Kohler is not an acceptable answer)?

[drivetrainUW-Platt]

When and where is this, I would love to watch.

[Neil S]

It's in Topeka, Kansas. This year it is going to be at the recently redone Heartland Park, a mile or so down the road from Forbe's Field. Its September 26-29th, this year FSAE should be Thursday and Friday (28th & 29th) so no National Warm-Ups for us due to classes http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Erich Ohlde]

Yea. We will be there with 05 and 06. and might have an entry for FSAE/L. The drive will be a killer again (30 whole minutes).

And again this year we are extending an invite to any teams that want to come but can't afford hotels, we will figure something out just email me at EOHLDE@ku.edu

[mtg]

Neil, you're going to miss warm-ups because of classes? Get your priorities straight, young jedi.

[Neil S]

Yeah, well we'll see...I'm not counting on going though.

[andyman61]

10th on a super tight auto-x course and fastest raw time on an "open" endurance course...imagine what she'll do on a nationals course! I'd really like to see UTA there and have the showdown of the aero teams.

Neil, assuming we both get out of classes to go, I hereby issue a double or nothing on our $10 bet from earlier this year, cause I can already tell you I'm not going to win that one...

[Hammock]

SDSMT will be there.

[Erich Ohlde]

SDSM&T are you guys interested in crashing at Clancy's house again this year? If so I'll pass the word on to him if you haven't already been in contact

[Kyle Walther]

Oklahoma is looking foreword to its first nationals. I just hope we can get our administration to let us take the car for the week.

[Dr. Bob Woods]

UTA is planning to attend with two cars, 4 drivers, F05 and F06. And yes, Erick Kohler is hoping to attend.

OU, let me know if your administration doesn't want to let you go and I will help encourage them. It will be great to have you there.

-Dr. Bob Woods, UTA

[Mike Cook]

As much as maryland would like to come I don't think we can afford it (time wise and money). Wish we could though, it is a lot of fun!

[Erich Ohlde]

Where can we find the SCCA's rulebook on FSAE class? I've been looking for a while and I can't find it anywhere

[Lexusteck]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jayhawk_electrical:
Where can we find the SCCA's rulebook on FSAE class? I've been looking for a while and I can't find it anywhere </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erich I will try and find the rule book for you. I should have it at the event Sunday

[Jreyenga]

SCCA rulebook http://www.scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/2006_solo_rules.pdf

pretty certain the rulebook reads that the cars have to have met the rules for the year it competed or the current year. Not that it matters unless you plan on pissing off the competition

edit: it may be a supplemental class and not in the rulebook... it doesn't matter so long as you aren't trying to run an a-mod car

[Kyle Walther]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dr. Bob Woods:
UTA is planning to attend with two cars, 4 drivers, F05 and F06. And yes, Erick Kohler is hoping to attend.

OU, let me know if your administration doesn't want to let you go and I will help encourage them. It will be great to have you there.

-Dr. Bob Woods, UTA </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you, Dr. Bob. i'll keep that card up my sleeve.

[Dr. Bob Woods]

The rules in the SCCA Solo Rules Book are wrong. Last year they started out ok, but then rules from F125 got inserted. This year, they have gone back to the orignial rules before we got our own class. I think they are aware of what the rules should be. I have talked to them and will do so again. Here is what the rules are supposed to say:


Formula SAE

Cars that are in compliance with the rules of the collegiate Formula SAE national engineering competition. To be eligible for SCCA, the car must have been an official entry in the FSAE competition any year since 1985 and met the rules of that year. The car must meet the recent restrictor rules (20 mm for gasoline, 19 mm for E85, or 18 mm for M85). The car must meet the current aerodynamic rules (powered ground effects are not allowed).

[JesseN]

I'll be there in E stock for both the ProSolo Finale and Solo2 Nationals.

[UTA racer rikki]

Awww Neil, I am hurt (not really) http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. Besides, I am not elligible for the Dr. Bob Woods Cup. It's definitely up for grabs.

We are going to be on the new super smooth asphalt this year, right? Any of the Kansas or UMR guys driven on it yet????

[Erich Ohlde]

KU has driven on it but it still had dirt from construction equip. KU OU and UMR will be driving at the divisional on Aug 5&6.

[Travis R]

I'll be there with the '02 car from UT (in sig)

[mtg]

For those going to the regionals this weekend- the Denver Grand Prix is the next weekend. For the UMR folks, you'll already be halfway to Denver.

[Neil S]

Yeah, but I still have to get back to St. Louis to work. I know some people were talking about road tripping up there for the race though.

[Erich Ohlde]

Neil don't forget the flag

[andyman61]

More importantly, are we gonna have somewhere to watch the Hungarian GP from?

[Erich Ohlde]

I'm sure we can find someplace, either my house or nicks house

[Travis R]

I just registered this morning. That should bring us up to 10 people in FSAE. How many trophies will they give out?
Looking forward to it.

[Kyle Walther]

it's usually the top third.. i think

[Travis R]

We're up to 12 entrants! That's a decent sized class. We're currenty larger than AMod and some of the Prepared classes. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Erich Ohlde]

if we can get enough entrants SCCA has the possibility of giving us our own heat.

[Kyle Walther]

16 sweet action!!

[Neil S]

18 now, 6 trophy spots I think. Anyone else coming?

[nick roberts]

...21 anyone else gonna show up? Wichita State? KSU? Should be 7 trophy spots now. Looks like the majority thinks Kohler will take it again and that the winged cars are going to dominate...well see

http://sccaforums.com/pickthewinners/results-solo.aspx#FSAE-NAT


-nick roberts
University of Kansas

[Travis R]

Wings are for sissies http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I just noticed that I'll have the oldest car there. Woo Hoo!

[Kyle Walther]

NEIL your ranked second buddy. are you gonna bring the pain to Kohler? someone has to.. and i'm back in 6th so it prolly won't be me =]

[Erich Ohlde]

Heck yea Neil is gonna bring the pain to Kohler. You'll see him wincing in pain when Neil ventilates the case on Rolla's 06 Motor

[Kyle Walther]

i just noticed "G unit" is touted to win FSAE-L... go baby go!

[Neil S]

While Dr. Bob and Kohler aren't watching I'm going to sit in their car, as soon as I do that their engine is bound to "ventilate" all fluids.

On that note, does anyone know of an engine that will run without compression, oil, or water for a long period of time? I could really use one of those.

[Travis R]

Is this a trick question? You want me to say electric, and then you're going to say that's a motor not an engine. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I have a car powered by my own sense of a self satisfaction. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Kyle Walther]

ours runs on the tears of baby squirrels http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Erich Ohlde]

an F4i with special low friction coatings on all the bearing surfaces. We've successfully run an F4i without water for something like 20 minutes hard (all first second gear, short course) no problems. Somehow we have magic piston rings that don't want to fail. we've done this on 2 cars... oops.

[Travis R]

Run/work order is up.

[Kyle Walther]

Aww that sucks. they put AM and FSAE running opposite. we were gonna have bobby run in AM =[. Boo

[Lexusteck]

Kyle, sre you crewing for your dad at the runoffs? I will be there for Weds, Thurs and Saturday if he needs help.
Steve Roberts

Too bad about Bobby but you might appeal for a travel waiver between courses. They will be close togetherhttp://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Kyle Walther]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lexusteck:
Kyle, sre you crewing for your dad at the runoffs? I will be there for Weds, Thurs and Saturday if he needs help.
Steve Roberts

Too bad about Bobby but you might appeal for a travel waiver between courses. They will be close togetherhttp://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know i'll be there for the race and anthing on the weekends, but i don't know about the qualifiying sessions during the week. I'll tell him you'll be around. I know he'd appreciate the help.

Are you going to drive the saftey car again? I wanna another ride. This time i'll remember my camera. =]

ohh and I got beat by matt last weekend at the local autocross. Yeah!, for team mates getting faster! i've never been so happy to lose

[Lexusteck]

No they have a "special " safety car driver for the runoffs. But any other race I would be happy to escort you around. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I will check the class times. I am with Derek Butts in T2 as crew with nick. Nick needs someone to push him besides you.

Steve
Jayhawk Motorsport Sponsor

[Kyle Walther]

The day is soon approaching!! (that doesn't even make since) Is everyone ready to go!! I am pumped up! this is gonna be fun, i can't wait. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[UTA racer rikki]

Kyle,

I know how you feel. I am way excited! I was dreaming of Nationals last night. It's all I could think of for the past week and a half.

The '06 was still having problems with fuel tuning issues, so we decided that we are going to bring '04 and '05 instead. We know what the problem is now (oscilliscopes are amazing), but it's too late to get it going for Nationals. We have made some adjustments to '04 and '05 which you might remember had some fuel tuning issues of their own at Texas AX Weekend.

I don't know if you know any of the A-mod drivers, but Todd Bowland is fsae alumn and from what I hear he is a really good driver. If you've never been to Nationals before, you are definitely in for a show in A-mod. Also, Joe Cheng is unvailing his new A-mod car which should be a sight. I know we run opposite them, but we might still be able to see them from our side of the track!

[Neil S]

Erick, what time are you guys getting into Topeka tomorrow? We should be there sometime around 3:30 to go through registration and tech.

[UTA racer rikki]

Neil,

We are hoping to get there around 2-3 or so. We barely made it through registration last year when we arrived a little late. So, we are leaving a little earlier this year in hopes to accomplish this. Can't wait to see you guys and the new car!

[Erich Ohlde]

are we all meeting up and going to dinner tomorrow?

[Kyle Walther]

I'm down for dinner. We should get there around 2:30-3. hopefully we can all paddock(sp) some what close to each other.

[rtrey]

Congratulations Sooners on a great finish.

[Kyle Walther]

i'm just glad the wings on both cars didn't break or collapse on someone. =]

[Travis R]

Next year I think I'll come with tires that aren't over a year old, a tire warmer, and maybe some wings. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Congrats to all the trophy winners.
See y'all next year. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[UTA racer rikki]

Ohhh man, was Nationals an exciting nail biter event this year. That was way more intense than SAE in my opinion.

Just so people know what a tire warmer is, that is your co-driver and his runs before yours. Although, it seemed like as a second driver I sat around longer than my co-driver did before his next run. Anyone else feel that way?

That happened last year too. My co-driver barely had the minimum time that you were required to wait between my run and his. All in all, an excellent and very well organized event. 21 drivers, clearly we are headed in the right direction with Nationals and FSAE entries there. Let's keep it up and start the campaign for next year!!!!!