differential and paddle shift...

[stealth]

we are first year students...i have a doubt....

is Torsen t1 limited slip differential is different from torsen differntial?
i am getting confused as they say the type of differentials are open,limited slip differential(LSD),TORque SENensing differential...
give me some links...

and is their any manufacturer who make paddle shifts for honda or yamaha or for any other engines... general

can anyone please tell me.......i ll be very thankful...

[stealth]

we are first year students...i have a doubt....

is Torsen t1 limited slip differential is different from torsen differntial?
i am getting confused as they say the type of differentials are open,limited slip differential(LSD),TORque SENensing differential...
give me some links...

and is their any manufacturer who make paddle shifts for honda or yamaha or for any other engines... general

can anyone please tell me.......i ll be very thankful...

[Dave Evans]

Not sure on the diff stuff, but there's plenty of gearshift kits out there for bikes, just have a search for powershifters, Translogic do one.

[stealth]

thank u http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ...does torsen manufacture chain drive differential....?

[Fyhr]

There are several manufacturers of torsen differentials adapted for chain drive.

This is one example: http://www.taylor-race.com/items.cfm?category=Chain%20D...Chain%20Drive%20Dif f (http://www.taylor-race.com/items.cfm?category=Chain%20Drive&subcategory1=Quaife%20Honda%20Chain%20Drive%20Diff )

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealth:
we are first year students...i have a doubt....

is Torsen t1 limited slip differential is different from torsen differntial?
i am getting confused as they say the type of differentials are open,limited slip differential(LSD),TORque SENensing differential...
give me some links...

and is their any manufacturer who make paddle shifts for honda or yamaha or for any other engines... general

can anyone please tell me.......i ll be very thankful... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dude, use your melon and search for this stuff yourself. In fact if you had your eyes open you would have noticed a similar thread only 3 down from the top of the page!

Regardless of team infancy or not, it still doesnt excuse you from idiocracy. Especially when you ask such questions with little regard to grammar or appreciation.

[stealth]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ad:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealth:
we are first year students...i have a doubt....

is Torsen t1 limited slip differential is different from torsen differntial?
i am getting confused as they say the type of differentials are open,limited slip differential(LSD),TORque SENensing differential...
give me some links...

and is their any manufacturer who make paddle shifts for honda or yamaha or for any other engines... general

can anyone please tell me.......i ll be very thankful... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dude, use your melon and search for this stuff yourself. In fact if you had your eyes open you would have noticed a similar thread only 3 down from the top of the page!

Regardless of team infancy or not, it still doesnt excuse you from idiocracy. Especially when you ask such questions with little regard to grammar or appreciation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry that my statement was grammatically wrong.

But i think your eyes were also shut to some extent because i had posted questions over there, you didn't see that.Just like you, even others would have not.Which forced me to.And by the way what harm is there to make a thread which also includes "paddle shift" .

[JDS]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealth:
we are first year students...i have a doubt....

is Torsen t1 limited slip differential is different from torsen differntial?
i am getting confused as they say the type of differentials are open,limited slip differential(LSD),TORque SENensing differential...
give me some links...

and is their any manufacturer who make paddle shifts for honda or yamaha or for any other engines... general

can anyone please tell me.......i ll be very thankful... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.torsen.com/fsae/fsaefaqframes.htm] (http://www.torsen.com/fsae/fsaefaqframes.htm%5D)



Torsen makes several differentials, T1, T2, and T3 are among them. The University Special is a T1 limited slip torque sensing differential. The link above should give you a good start. All torsen differentials as far as I know are limited slip and torque sensing. Torsen's website also has a great writeup about how the gearings work with thrust washers against the housing to differentiate power.

http://www.torsen.com/files/Traction_Control_Article.pdf

[JDS]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealth:
thank u http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ...does torsen manufacture chain drive differential....? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Torsen does not manufacture chain drive differential directly, but their website (see links posted above) describes how you can adapt their differentials to mount a sprocket for a chain drive.

[vandit]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealth:

and is their any manufacturer who make paddle shifts for honda or yamaha or for any other engines... general

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Hey, no matter even if you are first year team, dont try buying all the stuff and just fit it onto chassis....

paddle shift can be done by you guys also like other systems also ....basically there are two commonly used paddle shift system in FSAE...1&gt; Pneumatic and 2&gt; solenoid shift ....

There must be several threads on this forum which have discussed on both the types....so just dont close the doors for learning with directly buying attitude....look up them and see if you guys can do this system by yourself....

which city?....which college?

[stealth]

Thank you all.

[Chris Lane]

Dude, if your are a first year team do yourselves a favour and use a mechanical linkage and simple hand shifter.

Bullet-proof, easy to service, cheap, and won't run out of gas/jam/malfunction if designed properly.

Check out a Formula Ford and you'll see what I mean.

It is just another thing to go wrong... Do it properly once and you'll never have to worry about it

[Composites Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealth:
But i think your eyes were also shut to some extent because i had posted questions over there, you didn't see that.Just like you, even others would have not.Which forced me to.And by the way what harm is there to make a thread which also includes "paddle shift" . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you realize that this is difficult to read? It is not proper english. You seem to know the words to use, but the way that you break things into phrases, and your incorrect punctuation tend to make reading difficult.

I agree with Chris Lane. First year teams should stick to a simple mechanical linkage, or push-pull cable for shifting. As for differentials, check out the link below for some basic information. Also, consider the Quaife ATB differential if you want a reasonably priced, ready-to-go, chain-driven, torque-sensing differential.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

[JDS]

Not everyone speaks english as a first language. Is it really necessary to point out grammar mistakes? Lets stick with the issue at hand which is differentials and paddle shifters. I tend to agree with Chris Lane about using a manual shift linkage for a first year team. It is very effective and simple.

[Steve O]

Hell, I'd even say that a lot of non first year teams should stick with a mechanical linkage for all the same reasons... one less thing to break. I tried to go electrical this year and was not 100% satisfied with any of the solutions.

Steve

[drywater]

@stealth
,dude i am also a part of a indian team from delhi college of engineering(defianzracing),we have been working for 7 years now (formula student uk),my suggestion to you would be to use simple mechanical gear shift,it is easy to manufacture ,cheap,and reliable..havent researched on pneumatics..but as far as solenoid is concerned teams try not to use them,,if they go off in the competition,its all over for you

we are using torsen differential with a custom housing,,it is the best and cheap diff available for indian teams..else another option would be to go with a engine integrated diff as the bits ranchi team did

ankit dhingra
www.defianzracing.in (http://www.defianzracing.in)
delhi college of engineering