<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychosis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pat D'Rat:
Psychosis,
The video you ask about shows the rally crash that ended the career of Swiss Grand Prix driver Marc Surer and cost the life of his navigator. The car was a Ford RS200 and the rally was at Hessen in Germany in the late 1980s (I Not exactly sure, but thats what I remember)
I thought internet etiquette on responsible sites didnt show clips or pix of fatalities. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but thats how I would prefer it.
Pat </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
ive never actaully seen that crash, only heard of it. i know that instantly ended the rs200s rally involvement and ultimately the group B classification. Ford were building a lighter and more powerful version (plain scary). in all honesty i agree that the video is unsuitable for common laughter/dismay and should at least respect those who died. it is very much in bad taste, please edit your post and remove it.
UNWITTINGLY WATCHING TWO PEOPLE DIE IS NOT TERMED A "COOL VIDEO" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wow. I dont understand why something of that nature is looked upon with such negative intensity. I had no idea that anyone died in that crash nor does it matter. Nobody is jumping out of their seats and applauding the crash. I am sorry it was classified under a general post that has your kilt in a twist but that wasnt the intent of it. So it is okay to watch a crash and go wow unless someone gets killed? Thats a little off dont you think? The guys in the viper could have got really hurt or killed. But they lived so no need to complain about showing that one. Right?
I think videos of crashs where drivers die should be shown all the time. Racing is sport of choice and has no necessity to even exsist. Attitudes of people lead to things like this: "RACE CAR. RACE CAR. FASTER. FASTER. JORDON ONLY HAS 700HP WHEN FERRARI HAS 800HP. WIN. WIN AT ALL COSTS. OH CRAP. DRIVER DIED. LETS MORN FOR A WEEK AND GET BACK TO RACING. GET BACK TO WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT." Thats the attitude. From what i have read about 4 people died of basilar skull fractures in nascar before dale sr did. Nobody gave a damn. Lets race.
That video shows what happens when a racing series has no care of what happens to their drivers, when companies have no concern of building safe cars, when the fan climate doesnt care as long as whatever it takes to go fast to make them have a good time, when the drivers themselves crawl into a car knowing that they stand a pretty good chance of getting killed but do so because of their own ego.
The deaths in group b rally, formula 1 racing, cart, irl, nascar show that people look at the bottom dollar instead of doing what is necessary to make sure that all people (fans, drivers, pit crew) are safe. Would you watch rally if the car never broke 100mph to make sure that people wouldnt get hurt?
Those guys that died in that car, Aryton Seinna, Dale Sr, and countless other people who have died over the years have died due to the attitudes of the fans, drivers and organizations. All of these race series and fans cry their little eyes out when someone gets hurt and then try to blame it on something when all the professionals out there realized it was only a matter time. Proactive instead of reactionry measures are now starting to become a reality which is great. But unless people see "cool" vidoes of people dying of fireball crashes and carbon fiber a-arms impaling drivers through the face sheild(Aryton), then nothing is going to change.
Leave them up there and learn.