Wheel halves

[Carlos Oroza]

Yo, just wondering if you guys got any recommendations for wheel halves. any brand recommendations, anything I should be looking for in particular?

Carlos Oroza
Berkeley FSAE

[Carlos Oroza]

Yo, just wondering if you guys got any recommendations for wheel halves. any brand recommendations, anything I should be looking for in particular?

Carlos Oroza
Berkeley FSAE

[Kirk Feldkamp]

Make them!

-Kirk

[Carlos Oroza]

nihals not diggin it

[Kirk Feldkamp]

Truth be told, I think almost 100% of teams make them. There was a recent discussion about Keiser wheels in which the dude from Keiser said they have a batch of choices for wheel center designs. Do a search and check it out.

-Kirk

[Charlie]

100% of teams make thier wheel halves? No way. Maybe 2%

[Denny Trimble]

I think 25-50% of teams make their own wheel centers.

[Nihal]

Kirk, wheel centers I am confidant we can do, but we have no way to spin the wheel outers/halves (we are talking about the part with the bead).

[Kevin Hayward]

Carlos,

We ended up getting our wheel halves spun by a local company that made wheels for sprint cars. Ended up being much cheaper than importing them from overseas.

However that was after three years of getting imported products. Kiezers the first year, Kodiak the next two. Both companies produce a good wheel.

Unfortunately in the shipping process a significant number of the wheel halves got damaged and had to be prepared.

I would definitely plan towards spinning your own eventually. We could spin 12 wheels for less than the price of 4 wheels imported. Polishing them was a real pain. In the end we also found a local guy that was prepared to polish them for not too much money (after poorly polishing a set ourselves). Even with the polishing it was by far the best economical solution and we did not have to do much more work than the ordering process.

You do have to know a bit more about the materials and heat treating etc to decide what you want to do ... but we are supposed to be engineers.

Hope that helps.

Kev

ex-UWA

[Frank]

a few tasty carbon outers popping out of the oven here lately....

7075 CNC'd centers, childs play compared to uprights, did 9 centers in 1 1/4 days, uprights took 2 weeks...

hopefully no more "beep beep beep... Keizer Wheels, this is Wade"

[Kwheels]

Now I understand why you keep it up Franky boy. Your a competitor! That's cool do what you must to turn your buck. I don't mind the exposure.

Here is some info on Keizer pieces if you are considering going down that road. In-fact 2 Univ received 1st place honors on Keizer wheel parts with centers produced by the teams in 2005 competition. We try and be as helpful as possibly as you consider these options.

We produce 6061 T6 halves. I have outer pieces measuring 1",1.5",2",3",4" & 3"-8" inner Brake clearance halves. Drawings are avialable. From this you can produce any width & offset you wish to achieve. Here is a sample price for a wheel ready to accept your center . set of 4wheels 13x6 2pc shell=$148each. This comes sealed with all hardware. The weight of this wheel would be under 5pounds. We have outfitted around 30 teams in the past years who have chosen to produce their own centers. It is a nice team project & is not that difficult. We will assist you in whatever questions or conserns you may have.

Wade Huisman
Keizer Racing Wheels Inc.
F-SAE sales & Tech.
712-737-3053
kaw@mtcnet.net
http://www.keizerwheels.com

[Frank]

If I was in a USA team, I'd buy Keizer Wheels

So there you go Wade, your greatest critic still likes your product enough to recomend them.

Those Keizer Mag wheels are cheap (for fsae), and light.

Provided you dont machine the boss to nothing, they should last you for ever.

All you have to do is be careful mounting them, ie dont let monkeys put your tyres on.

How do I know they last? I'm an NDT technician (by trade), and I test the living daylights out of all the parts that get run on our cars.

I'd prefer carbon though http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ps Wade, I'm a uni student, at UQ, I only tried to "help" QUT cos they were desperate (their trademen wouldn't machine magnesium), I don't run any business making anything

[Kwheels]

Very Cool, No worries then I guess. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I do understand the concerns with shipping expense & such. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif This is why we have begun sponsoring teams overseas with extra help to defer the teams shipping costs. And you are correct. Tire monkeys are our worst enemies both in the carbon world and Alum. The only thing we cannot stand behind is the Tire mounting. Also we cover all cost in the case that something is incorrect with a order. This puts a teams mind to rest. Carbon is cool, it has its advantages and disadvantages. Superior But can also be a headache. You have to walk the line of being to brittle or to pliable to make it work. Nylon based carbons have a tendency to have high deflection numbers. Lastly we are not involved with the sae teams from a pocket bock view as I do not believe you are either. The time and effort is a brake even deal. We do it for the experience of working with world class engineering University such as yours. I imagine I am on here for the same reason you are Frank. To make these cars bad ass fast & to help some very special race teams. And yes, we do learn some things along the way. I am a racer and just want to see my product win as much as the next guy. Good luck with your venture whatever it may be. Cheers http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Wade Huisman
F-SAE sales and Tech.
712-737-3053
kaw@mtcnet.net
http://www.keizerwheels.com
http://www.thewheelstore.com

[Kwheels]

Keizer F-SAE Racing Wheels 2006 Update.

First lets go over some current pricing and packages Available.
Remember all sizes and offsets available.
If anyone is needing a quote on more then 8 wheels this can be arranged.

Sample packages All wheels packages reflect between 25-35% discounts
Other sizes and width available.
13x6or6.5" 3pc Mag Set of 4=$1020 Set of 8=1800
13x6or6.5" 3pc alum Set of 4=$840 Set of 8=$1440
10x6.5" 3pc alum Set of 4=$780 Set of 8=$1392

Wheel shell packages. Includes complete hardware and sealant.
Other sizes available
13x6or6.5" 2pc complete Set of 4=$592 Set of 8=$1040 weight=5pounds complete small center style=4pounds
10x6 2pc complete Set of 4=$440 Set of 8=$800 weight=3pounds complete


Again I want to remind all teams of the extra sponsorship prize up for grabs this season. Let me know if you have any q's. A deadline has not yet been set.

We hope to be updating our website soon. Here is a sneak peak. http://www.thewheelstore.com There are a lot of pieces not listed yet that teams may want to take advantage of. We encourage you to call and we can get an explanation of the different options and directions we can help you with. Pricing is pretty close to the same even with the huge increases of material costs. We are still sponsoring teams with quantity orders and help out all teams that buy from Keizer with F-SAE specific pricing.

$1000 in wheel sponsorship will be available to the team that can best describe the effects of rotational wheel mass to the racecar in both engineering and laymen's terms. We would like to here the SAE teams take on how important rotational weight is in the racing wheels. We would like a reports to be broken into two different formats. The first, being an explanation that a lead engineer would understand and be familiar with. The second being in laments terms that the local Saturday night racer would comprehend and appreciate. We want this to be targeted towards the racer/eng of today. The Project is as simple as it sounds. There are no length requirements or guidelines other than this. Put a Good report together in whatever fashion you see gets your points across to both Engineer & Hillbilly alike and you could find your team with an extra $1000 in a wheel budget. All teams that participate will receive Keizer Wheels contingency prizes such as hats & shirts & gift certificates. Any questions concerning this project can be directed to Wade Huisman F-SAE Sales and Tech manager. 712-737-3053 We know this is going to be very hard to decide which team presents the best report. We look forward to all the good thoughts.

thanks again

Wade Huisman
Keizer Racing Wheels
F-SAE sales and Tech.
712-737-3053
kaw@mtcnet.net
http://www.keizerwheels.com