Program engine simulation

[Felix]

hi! i´m searching program engine simulation for model Honda CBR 600 F4i, if you can help me in this problem, give me website or send email to me. this information is importan for team FSAE - UDO, venezuela.

thanks you,

Felix Fajardo
Fajardofsae@gmail.com

[Chris Boyden]

Try Ricardo Wave. It is an engine sim program that can help you determine runner lengths, cam timing, exhaust lengths, compression ratio effects, afr, etc..

[Kamil S]

Talk to your faculty advisor into getting Ricardo Wave for you free. For the price of a couple stickers on your car, you can enjoy the program.

[RickyRacer]

I have been looking on the Ricardo website and have not been able to locate sny information regarding getting the program. I was also wondering if there is still the $1000 or so training fee, I would rather do training but we might not yet have the money spend on it.
Thanks
Rick Cal State Long Beach

[RickyRacer]

anybody? bump.

Rick
Cal State Long Beach

[Bowtie Man]

You can also look into Virtual 4 Stroke from Optimum Power Technology which has a $100 license for FSAE teams. I havn't got a new license for it this year yet but with accurate input you can gain a lot from it without turning over your engine.

Luc

[2T4T]

Hello,
I am 45 and I spend my time playing with simulator. After 2 stroke , I skipped to 4 stroke with the software of my friend Fernando of RTZ-Soft.
I learn about engines by studying many of them with the simulator. I am not a good mechanic and I don't disassemble engine in my flat on evening!
I would much appreciate if you could sent information about your engine (stock unmodified) that you are using.
Forte4T , my simulator is for single cylinder engine bur I learned to do things from multi-cylinder also.
Thanks in advance
Regards

[aflegel]

Has anyone tried to use the Stanford Engine Simluation Program (ESP)? If so has anyone had any luck with it? You can download it free off the internet and it goes along with a book called: Engines An Introduction by John L. Lumley.

~Ashlie

[Kamil S]

I downloaded ESP, it looks decent (given the number of parameters you could change), but I haven't toyed around with it yet.

Maybe someone from Stanford could comment? http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[kwancho]

Hmm... haven't heard of that prof. I know the current internal combustion prof, and I'm sure that he knows him. I would assume that we use that software in Internal Combustion Engines, but I haven't taken it yet. Sorry I can't help more.

[Ryan McCauley]

I tried using the ESP program last semester in my IC engines class and it is an extremely confusing program to try and learn. I wouldn't recommend it, unless you really like cursing a lot.

[DaveC]

I have been looking on the Ricardo website and have not been able to locate sny information regarding getting the program.

http://software.ricardo.com/

Email RS_Support_US at ricardo dot com

[2T4T]

Hello,
I understand , it is not easy to share such information so do you read SAE papers including sufficiantly detailed engien informations to insert them in a http://adardaine.free.fr/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=579 simulator ?
Those I know :
Imech C587/001/2000 : YZF400
SAE 961030 : Piaggio 125ETS
SAE 930501 : BSA500 Victor
2002-01-0002 : YZ426
962526 : 916SP in Blair book
2000-01-3546 : 900SBK Blair study
980124 , 980125 : Alfa ITC racing V6
2004-01-3559 , 3560 : MotoGP study
SAE 962542 : V12 F1

[Nima]

Who can help me with buyying the Virtual 4 Stroke from Optimum Power in the FSAE price? I am the engine leader of the IUT FSAE from Iran and can't buy most of the US products. I contacted the Optimum Power to get V4S but they apologized me to giving their products because of the US economic limitations with Iran.

Anybody who can help me with getting this software, please send me an email:
persianstop@yahoo.com

Thanks a lot

[schakl]

Originally posted by Nima:
Who can help me with buyying the Virtual 4 Stroke from Optimum Power in the FSAE price? I am the engine leader of the IUT FSAE from Iran and can't buy most of the US products. I contacted the Optimum Power to get V4S but they apologized me to giving their products because of the US economic limitations with Iran.

Anybody who can help me with getting this software, please send me an email:
persianstop@yahoo.com

Thanks a lot

There are three professional 1D engine cycle simulation/calculation software packages on the market which will be used by the automotive and engine development industry:
GT Power (from Gamma Technolgies, IL, USA - www.gtisoft.com) (http://www.gtisoft.com)) Ricardo Wave (from Ricardo, UK - www.ricardo.com) (http://www.ricardo.com)) AVL Boost (from AVL, Austria - www.avl.com) (http://www.avl.com))
As I know all of the companies above are licensing limited educational version of their software to universities and educational intitutions.
Aside the (dis)advantages from one to another of the packages above, due to political reasons you should try to get an edu license of Boost, particularly as AVL have a subsidiary office in Teheran (address could be found at their homepage).

schakl

[Exhausted]

Optimum-Power's sim Virtual 4 Stroke with Automated Design is the best choice for racing applications. Virtual 4 Stroke is the only sim that I know of that uses actual discharge coefficiemts to model flow through the engine instead of the simpler and more common Isentropic discharge coefficient. Blair has proven that actual CD is superior to isentropic CD methods for high performance engine modeling.

Optimum Power offers V4S and Automated Design to FSAE teams (http://www.optimum-power.com/news-12-04-05.htm)

For design considerations, consult

FourStrokeDesign.com (http://www.fourstrokedesign.com/forums)