Is there anyone who's not an engineer (Student obviously)

[MetalAndy]

Hey

Being an Engineering student isnt a requirement at my school, so I joined. However, people still assume I am one. I would have been, but I got sucked into Pharmacy at the last minute...Thats right, im a 3rd year pharmacy student, so i have 3 years after this still. I almost did fsae when I was a freshman, but I was basically anti-social back then, so this is my first year. I wish I had done it sooner however. My friends tell me I would make a good engineer. My dad is one and i've seen many different sides of the Engineering buisness. I even drew P&ID's for him (I got hired by his work last summer to help him with his loads of work.), and let me tell you...boooreing. think i'll like being a Pharmacist better for the most part, cause lets face it, the majority of Engineering jobs aren't jobs on racing teams or something. That happened to me and like 3 of my pharmacy friends. We all applied only for enginnering at other places and pharmacy here at Rutgers, and well you can tell what happened.

Not to give you my whole life story, but are you or anyone you know on an FSAE team not an Engineer.

For example, I'm a Pharmacy student, and this other guy I know is something else. not sure what though. So far that's all I know.

o cool.

~Andy

[MetalAndy]

Hey

Being an Engineering student isnt a requirement at my school, so I joined. However, people still assume I am one. I would have been, but I got sucked into Pharmacy at the last minute...Thats right, im a 3rd year pharmacy student, so i have 3 years after this still. I almost did fsae when I was a freshman, but I was basically anti-social back then, so this is my first year. I wish I had done it sooner however. My friends tell me I would make a good engineer. My dad is one and i've seen many different sides of the Engineering buisness. I even drew P&ID's for him (I got hired by his work last summer to help him with his loads of work.), and let me tell you...boooreing. think i'll like being a Pharmacist better for the most part, cause lets face it, the majority of Engineering jobs aren't jobs on racing teams or something. That happened to me and like 3 of my pharmacy friends. We all applied only for enginnering at other places and pharmacy here at Rutgers, and well you can tell what happened.

Not to give you my whole life story, but are you or anyone you know on an FSAE team not an Engineer.

For example, I'm a Pharmacy student, and this other guy I know is something else. not sure what though. So far that's all I know.

o cool.

~Andy

[Joy Pathak]

Thats pretty wicked that you are great in two completely different type of fields.
I dont think anyone on my university Formula team or any of the other teams(Aerodesign...supermileage...Mini Baha...etc etc..) are anything but engineering. I dont know for a fact if being an engineering student is a pre-req... but i am 90% positive it isnt.


I still think thats pretty sweet that you can literally be an engineer and a pharmacist if u wanted to be . Kudos.

[Mike Flitcraft]

I'm Undecided here at UC. I'm not in engineering at all at the moment, but that could always change.

I did attend Ohio State for a semester declaring the major of ME, but never having more math than Algebra II, barely a chemistry background, 0 physics, and 0 computer programing. We all know how that story ended....I'm no longer there if you need a clue.

I had at least 4 or 5 people telling me on the 28th that I should say screw it and go declared as ME, from a pharmacist, parts driver, nurse, truck driver...pretty much all my freinds thing I'm an engineer for some reason.

Actually, I think I'm the only non-engineering student that's active in FSAE at UC this year. I know I'm the oldest freshman though, always throws folks for a loop.

[Biggy72]

We've got a couple business and physics majors right now. They just want to learn how to build stuff though. I've been trying to recruit more business/marketing people to help find money and do paper work, but it hasn't been going so well. Also I wouldn't mind someone that would make videos and stuff like that for promotional purposes, but we haven't really found anyone for that either.

It seems like no matter what anyone's major is the reason they want to be in the club is to build cool stuff and drive the car, they're not here to do paperwork or ask people for money....

[Cheryl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Biggy72:
It seems like no matter what anyone's major is the reason they want to be in the club is to build cool stuff and drive the car, they're not here to do paperwork or ask people for money.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not necessarily true. I'm a business major, and the main reason I joined was so that I could help with sponsorship, marketing, and paper work. lol! So either you go to the wrong school or you just aren't looking hard enough. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

However, being on this team is also slowly turning me into a race car fan....

[Biggy72]

Well I'll open an invitation for you to join our team if you'd like to transfer.

[Cheryl]

Thanks for the invite, but I'm very happy at Ryerson. lol!

Maybe you should get the people on your team from other faculties to try and recruit their friends. That being said, if those friends have heard about the amount of work required to be on a Formula SAE team, you may have some trouble roping them in. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[nzgenette]

We have business people on our team too..I think it's important because at our uni the engineering students are mega busy and the commerce students are kinda just cruising along so it's good to have people on the team that don't have loads of uni work to do all the time.

If only we could recruit some arts students then we would never be short of helping hands (I mean it's not like they can use the "I have uni work to do" excuse!! http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

[Bill Kunst]

I am a Technology Education teacher. I know I graduated, but I still like to think that i have positive input into the forum, and the team I was on (Last year I got machining donated).

Bill

[JHarshbarger]

Cheryl,

Does your team offer some kind of incentive for being a part of the SAE team? I don't see why you'd want to join SAE just to do business work if you don't even like racing. We have a hard enough time keeping around our business majors or at least people who are interested in sponsorship and paperwork stuff. We've knocked around the idea of offering a cut to those people who find sponsorships to help draw in business oriented people, but we've yet to do that. I've also heard of some schools giving college credit to students who are on the SAE team. Maybe that's the case...

[adrial]

Well I hope you already know...but your president is a poly sci wannabe engineer. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JR @ CFS]

If you think about it, the static events are worth over 30% of the total marks in the event. I have worked a lot during my degree (2 full years out, 5 companies in 4 different countries) and I have seen that a lot of the skills in these events are pretty essential in the work place. Unfortunately, most Engineering students lack these basic skills...I honestly saw a guy once forget his own name at the start of a presentation!!

So, getting people from other degrees involved is a pretty good idea. I can openly admit that I do not have the greatest technical mind in the world, but I can sell ice to the eskimos http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I also enjoy marketing and advertising, hence why that is exactly what I am involved in this year. The organisers even advise you to use the marketing departments at your schools to get advice on how to improve this side of your team. The points gained in these events can be the difference between 1st place and a hell of a lot lower!

You can build a fantastic car, which poorly marketed, won´t sell. On the opposite side of the scale, you can have a poorly built car, which marketed well, will sell! Jaguar is a perfect example! When ford bought Jag, they sent 10 Jags to the quality department at Ford and they found that the cars were terrible! Poor fit, no two cars were the same, yet Jag was a name that conjured up thoughts of quality and prestige!

JR

[Biggy72]

When everyone first joins everyone wants to drive. If a business/marketing/whatever else person were to come into our program and help out as much as an engineering major designing, or fabricating they would be just as elligible to drive the car when we start having driver training. From there we pick the best drivers for each event so if they made the cut I could see someone like that driving at competition. Between this and the experience gained which looks good on a resume, I would think that this would be enough incentive to join FSAE.

[Cheryl]

Joel: I only joined our team last year after a friend of mine on the team told me that they needed marketing/sponsorship help. After I met up with the rest of the team and heard more about the competiton and what they did, I was very excited about having the opportunity to finally get to apply the skills I have learned into a fun and exciting project.

I also thought that it would be interesting to learn more about motorsports -- something that I didn't know much about when I first joined the team. In addition, the increasing use of cross-functional teams in the work place makes being on a team like this very important.

That said, I do not get any "incentive" to be part of FSAE with the exception of gaining more experience and working on a team that I care about a lot. Also, no one gets course credits for joining FSAE. Everyone on the team is here for one reason only -- to get involved with racing whether it's through design, fabrication, or marketing.

Honestly, you should try asking the school's marketing department like jonnierice suggested or ask any friends you may have that are in business. I don't think any teams can afford to really provide portions of sponsorship money raised to members, and it totally defeats the purpose of raising money to help build the car or for marketing materials. If you have to pay someone to be on your team, then they clearly don't have the dedication required to be part of FSAE. Go to more school events and mingle when you get the chance. Otherwise, you'd be better off with getting someone in an engineering program on your team to help out with sponsorship efforts.

Cheryl