dry sump systems

[Jesse BRD]

so i have been approached a few times in the past from fsae and formula student teams abroad regarding dry sump oiling systems for various 600cc engines. to date i have been focusing on 1000cc and larger engines for use in open wheel cars, sports racers, side cars, drag bikes etc. dry sump is my main business, and i have built systems to run very successfully in some of the fastest motorcycle powered vehicles on the planet. we stay on top of all the new hot engines as they come out including the new 2011-12 zx10r. hours upon hours are spent in cad to optimize these systems followed by loads of dyno testing and ultimately track testing/verification. i am currently interested in entering new markets and would be interested in any way that we can assist your teams. this can be scavenge pumps only, or full systems. our systems are generally low profile and integrated to minimize external plumbing to reduce weight and complexity. pleases let me know if this would be of interest to your community. thanks

my current offerings can be seen at my site. it is a simple rather basic site, but it gives an idea of what we build.
www.brittsanracing.com (http://www.brittsanracing.com)

[Jesse BRD]

so i have been approached a few times in the past from fsae and formula student teams abroad regarding dry sump oiling systems for various 600cc engines. to date i have been focusing on 1000cc and larger engines for use in open wheel cars, sports racers, side cars, drag bikes etc. dry sump is my main business, and i have built systems to run very successfully in some of the fastest motorcycle powered vehicles on the planet. we stay on top of all the new hot engines as they come out including the new 2011-12 zx10r. hours upon hours are spent in cad to optimize these systems followed by loads of dyno testing and ultimately track testing/verification. i am currently interested in entering new markets and would be interested in any way that we can assist your teams. this can be scavenge pumps only, or full systems. our systems are generally low profile and integrated to minimize external plumbing to reduce weight and complexity. pleases let me know if this would be of interest to your community. thanks

my current offerings can be seen at my site. it is a simple rather basic site, but it gives an idea of what we build.
www.brittsanracing.com (http://www.brittsanracing.com)

[Kevin Hayward]

Jesse,

Looks like some nice work on the website. Probably the most likely engine to design systems for will be the CBR600RR and Yamaha 600. As far as I am aware the majority of singles used have inbuilt dry sump systems. Had you come to this market about 5 years ago you probably could have sold quite a lot more, but the trend is definitely towards these singles now.

Pumps are quite easy to source from Dailey or Pace. Most often these mount to the existing mechanical water pump shaft, and teams switch to an electrical water pump. However nearly all teams working on dry sump systems design and make their own pan and oil tank. Some of these are good implementations, some fail miserably. Either of these components produced well and with reasonable size and weight would be quite welcome. If a full system with internal oil pumps that allowed you to run the existing mechanical water pump was available I would think it would be one of the first systems you would consider adding to your 4 cylinder FSAE engine.

If you haven't already I would check out the products offered by Ohlins, Taylor Race and Drexler for FSAE. Although they are not oil systems they are the best examples of products in FSAE and Formula Student that are considered first choices. What they have in common is very high quality, and very low weight. These are generally the two main concerns for every FSAE team.

If you were to develop a system I would imagine that you would have teams lining up to help with the early development, assuming the early costs were absorbed by your company.

Hope this helps.

Kev