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Vishwas Shelar
01-22-2012, 11:12 AM
Hi guys,
its the first time we are compete for FSC competition..We are using RE classic 500 efi single cylinder engine ...So please suggest me the ECU which will be easy to remap..
Vishwas Shelar
01-22-2012, 11:12 AM
Hi guys,
its the first time we are compete for FSC competition..We are using RE classic 500 efi single cylinder engine ...So please suggest me the ECU which will be easy to remap..
Sormaz
01-22-2012, 11:45 AM
Commodore 64
On a 1 cylinder engine any ecu is going to work pretty well so the discussion is really about budget more than anything else I think.
Right now the cheapest is probably MegaSquirt.
FreeEMS (open source project) has 6 or 10 installs out there now and should only be a couple hundred dollars to do but is not as far a long in development as you might like.
My o5e project is not as far along as FreeEMS but if you are talking about next spring not this spring then that would be another option in the $200 range.
Then at the other end is a Motec which will work perfectly but cost $3000.
Lot's of options in between.
Ben K
01-23-2012, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mk e:
On a 1 cylinder engine any ecu is going to work pretty well so the discussion is really about budget more than anything else I think.
Right now the cheapest is probably MegaSquirt.
FreeEMS (open source project) has 6 or 10 installs out there now and should only be a couple hundred dollars to do but is not as far a long in development as you might like.
My o5e project is not as far along as FreeEMS but if you are talking about next spring not this spring then that would be another option in the $200 range.
Then at the other end is a Motec which will work perfectly but cost $3000.
Lot's of options in between. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Mega squirt doesn't like high RPM engines. I've heard micro squirt works better.
Ben
Apex Speed Technology
01-23-2012, 11:39 AM
There are a number of solutions at the low end which are a bit more refined than Megasquirt and don't have to cost $3k.
For FSAE teams, the AEM EMS4 & PE-LTD ECUs are both less than $100 and can handle single-cylinder engines very well.
-neel
B Lewis @ PE Engine Management
01-23-2012, 12:09 PM
Neel is correct about our ECUs. We do many pro single cylinder quad teams.
If anyone has any questions regarding our PE3 ECU please don't hesitate to contact me.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Apex Speed Technology:
There are a number of solutions at the low end which are a bit more refined than Megasquirt and don't have to cost $3k.
For FSAE teams, the AEM EMS4 & PE-LTD ECUs are both less than $100 and can handle single-cylinder engines very well.
-neel </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is a smokin deal and definitely a much better option than a MS!
wweissin
01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
I do believe Neel dropped a zero and they are less $1000.
Mumpitz
01-24-2012, 01:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ben Kolodner:
Mega squirt doesn't like high RPM engines.
Ben </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What makes you say that? I've had it over 14,000 on our car (F4i) runnin sequential and coil on plug. Lots of time to develop it but very worth it in the long run.
Mbirt
01-24-2012, 01:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mumpitz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ben Kolodner:
Mega squirt doesn't like high RPM engines.
Ben </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What makes you say that? I've had it over 14,000 on our car (F4i) runnin sequential and coil on plug. Lots of time to develop it but very worth it in the long run. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ditto. It wasn't an easy journey, but our Honda single/MS3 setup revved happily to 11k. Is the cost save worth having to play with resistors and pots in the VR circuit to get a clean crank signal? That's for each team to decide.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mbirt:
Is the cost save worth having to play with resistors and pots in the VR circuit to get a clean crank signal? That's for each team to decide. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah...MS installs are always a science project to get working because the HW design is incomplete and the FW is just plain bad IMO (with MS3 they are back to blowing up engines I'm told, the early MS1 stuff was notorious for this making the low purchase price not so cheap). The VR set-up issues are almost inexcusable since there's been a $2 chip (MAX9926) on the market for years now that converts VR to digital perfectly.
Mumpitz
01-25-2012, 08:56 AM
The 9926 isn't an end-all of VR conditioning either. I ran into my fair share of problems with it as well. If you can't read and understand a datasheet megasquirt is not your friend, granted, FSAE and engineering in general may not be either if that is the case.
Mustafa
01-25-2012, 11:24 AM
Getting back to what Vishwas asked originally...
Theres a company in Bangalore called Racedynamics. They make a ECU called the PowerTRONIC for YZF R15 and Classic500. Fully tunable and comes with a remote!
The ECUs Racedynamics make for cars are quite good, website has a lot of info, get in touch with them.
Mustafa
Vishwas Shelar
02-28-2012, 04:01 AM
Hiii
thank you for all ur advises...
Dear Mustafa,i have contacted RACEDYNAMICS,Bangalore..As we want to mount lambda sensor on our engine so they suggested us the RACEDYMANICS RD0901...But i want to know that i hv my stock harness including sensors mounted on our engine so it will not make problem,isn't it?????<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mustafa:
Getting back to what Vishwas asked originally...
Theres a company in Bangalore called Racedynamics. They make a ECU called the PowerTRONIC for YZF R15 and Classic500. Fully tunable and comes with a remote!
The ECUs Racedynamics make for cars are quite good, website has a lot of info, get in touch with them.
Mustafa </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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