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TAMUCC
02-27-2006, 10:13 PM
I have checked on several bike message boards, and through the internets, but i cannot seem to find a truly complete list of dimensions for the engine. The Service manual is missing things like CR length, valve size, CR width, and almost every other dimension. If anyone around here had some dimensioned drawings of the engine they would be willing to share that would be a huge help.

2004 Is just the year model engine we have, I am fairly certaint he 03, 04, 05, AND 06 Engines are identical, but not 100% certain.

Thank you,
Robert

Maverik
02-27-2006, 10:43 PM
Good luck on getting properly dimensioned drawings... we've run it for two years now and even now a lot of the drawings we only have through taking our own measurements. I mean, if you know someone that speaks Japanese you might be able to get somewhere...

Jersey Tom
02-27-2006, 11:13 PM
Bust out the CMM, or calipers..

Got some sweet 54" calipers or there abouts..

Kamil S
02-28-2006, 11:57 AM
Our guy handling that spent about 2 months running CMM and postprocessing on the engine parts... I don't think he is willing to share his model that easily though http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TAMUCC
02-28-2006, 12:51 PM
yeah, I dont rteally want to take the head off of the engine at this point just for the sake of drawings. I dont really want someone elses model either, I apreciate all of the help, as far as the japanese goes, we have someone who speeks it fluently, and can read it, does someone have japanese drawings with dimensions from honda?

TG
03-01-2006, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Kamil S:
Our guy handling that spent about 2 months running CMM and postprocessing on the engine parts... I don't think he is willing to share his model that easily though http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It's not a CMM, it's been scanned in using a Cyberware model 3030 (http://www.cyberware.com/products/3030Info.html) (the one here at the school is old and isn't color). Anyways, it runs through a proprietary program, Cydir, and outputs triangulated surfaces, which is more accurate than exporting raw points and triangulating the points. The model is highly accurate and probably the best way to do non-contact measurement of surfaces.

However, I have not yet done post-processing on the model and the is much garbage and surfaces that need to be refined in it. The metallic surfaces refract the laser which led to more scans. Those led to more garbage that needs to be taken out. So, once I can find the time I'll go in and post-process it.

Since this was done in a lab here at the university, the lab requested that if we do give it to other teams that we sell it for a small amount (around $200-$300). The guys in the lab said that something like this would cost at least $3000 for them to do something like this.

chavez
03-01-2006, 06:09 PM
that better be some engine model if you plan on selling it on here, kinda a stupid idea in the first place to even mention you had a model

TAMUCC
03-01-2006, 10:02 PM
well, my model will be in Autodesk Inventor, I believe most of you use Pro-e or solid works, however, I plan on getting this done at some point, and would be more than happy to post my results when completed.

David M
06-22-2006, 09:52 AM
Tim,

I was wondering if you were still interested in selling the 600rr model. If so, please email me at dm82@evansville.edu

Thanks,

David Mills
University of Evansville

TG
06-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Dave,

I've been completely busy with other stuff and have been putting off working on the engine. I have a independant study next semester with one of the profs in the lab and will be working on finishing it up in there. You can form a good, highly accrate model of the engine from the pieces I have scanned, but being that they are stl images and not in NURBS, the files are huge, coming in at half a gig for all the parts. We can talk to see if you are still interested.

Here's a pic of what it looks like now: http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/asuglax/Engineassembly.jpg

It's missing a few surfaces (no biggie, just extrapolate the surrounding surfaces) and still has some junk that needs to be cleaned up. You can see casting marks in the scan, so it's pretty damn accurate.

edit: hopefully photobucket works

Maverik
06-26-2006, 02:49 PM
Wow... that's a rather nice engine model!

sujay
06-29-2006, 01:28 AM
can u guys please tell me basic dimensions of the engine so we can get started on our modeling?

just the largest dimensions (h,l,b)

D-Train
08-31-2006, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by TG:
Dave,

I've been completely busy with other stuff and have been putting off working on the engine. I have a independant study next semester with one of the profs in the lab and will be working on finishing it up in there. You can form a good, highly accrate model of the engine from the pieces I have scanned, but being that they are stl images and not in NURBS, the files are huge, coming in at half a gig for all the parts. We can talk to see if you are still interested.

Here's a pic of what it looks like now: http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/asuglax/Engineassembly.jpg

It's missing a few surfaces (no biggie, just extrapolate the surrounding surfaces) and still has some junk that needs to be cleaned up. You can see casting marks in the scan, so it's pretty damn accurate.

edit: hopefully photobucket works

Tim Gruhl
ASU Motorsports

Erm..... yeah, it looks good, but can you pull any dimensions off it?

TG
08-31-2006, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by D-Train:
Erm..... yeah, it looks good, but can you pull any dimensions off it?

Not directly yet. But you can place it in 3-d space and have very valuable references to spacing and so forth. I have measured the model placing points in space, but I would still go back to physically measuring it regardless. Once I get it into NURBS (which I'm working on this semester) it will be as good as any other CAD model in terms of what you can do with it.

Superfast Matt McCoy
09-01-2006, 02:25 PM
We here at Oklahoma are selling a 600RR and we're including our .igs scan free with the motor.

if you need a motor and a CAD file, this is the way to do it.

http://fsae.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=763607348&f=41260086...10318531#72110318531 (http://fsae.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=763607348&f=412600868&m=72110318531&r=72110318531#72110318531)