Used Formula Car

[Greg H]

Well it seems our advisor wants us to get rid of some of our older cars. We are running out of room for them and we have too many to even practice with them all. My question is, is there anyone out there interested in buying an old FSAE car or three?

[Greg H]

Well it seems our advisor wants us to get rid of some of our older cars. We are running out of room for them and we have too many to even practice with them all. My question is, is there anyone out there interested in buying an old FSAE car or three?

[Kirk Feldkamp]

Pictures? Descriptions?

-Kirk

[Buckingham]

If you were interested in crash testing one of them by a NHTSA contractor, I might be able to get that arranged.

[kozak]

try and sell them to your alumni, i'll bet they would want them.

[Agent4573]

we're running low on space also, so we told our alumni about it and a bunch of them are interested in taking one that they worked on and making it race ready again. I'm sure you can get rid of a few that way.

[Greg H]

I was thinking of offering to rookie teams because it is hard enough to design one of these cars, and I can't imagine if we started with nothing. Mostly for the purpose of looking at different components and systems that do work. I am by no means offering a predesigned car, but something tangible to get a feel for how these cars run first hand (and to see what happens when they break). Our team is still in talks but I was just seeing if there is anyone out there interested. We've got our 1999 car with a Honda F2 and our 2001 and 2002 cars with Kawasaki ZX-6R engines. Another reason we want to pass them on is because they need repairs too. I'll keep everyone updated.

[kwancho]

I don't know about the other teams, but half the fun for us is that we're designing it from scratch, with pretty much no previous experience. I wouldn't consider buying somebody else's car, even if just to get ideas.

[Daves]

Greg, try your local autocross course. If no one shows interest, try online autocross forums. I met a guy at a Louisiana SCCA Solo 2 event that desperately wanted an FSAE car. Too bad I don't have his info.

[RiNaZ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alex Kwan:
I don't know about the other teams, but half the fun for us is that we're designing it from scratch, with pretty much no previous experience. I wouldn't consider buying somebody else's car, even if just to get ideas. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dont know how far you guys are in building or designing the car ... but i think having a used car is beneficial and a whole lot more fun than not having one.

It'll help a team build and design a new car a lot faster, and i dont mean copying every single thing there is on a used car. You can get some fresh new ideas by looking at an existing one.

And it is so much easier explaining to your team member what you intend to do with certain parts of the car especially if most of your team members are freshmen. It'll speed things up and hopefully you can get a lot of seat time when finishing the car.

So i think you can more fun out of building/designing the car if you get it done first.

[MikeWaggoner at UW]

Amen Rinaz. I've also always found it easier to find something less than perfect that someone else did and try to improve it, than trying to start from scratch.

Also, if you have any hope of being competitive, you needs months of seat time. Not that all rookie teams don't finish their cars early and drive adequately, but having a runner sooner would help... Driving these cars is like nothing else (yeah, carting and Formula Ford have some similar aspects, but they're still real different to be fast in).

[drivetrainUW-Platt]

Ill take one, get me picts and a price!

[J. Schmidt]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Ill take one, get me picts and a price!
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What, you want something to race against your golf cart?

[Denny Trimble]

Yeah, if you really can't find alumni (the team captains of each year?) to buy the cars, and if you can handle the legal aspects of selling one to a private person, you'll probably get a lot of attention at sccaforums.com.

[Kevin M]

Greg,

I want to buy 54 and 84 how much and what all is wrong with it.

Kevin Martz
Kevin.Martz@Tycohealthcare.com

[Cement Legs]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alex Kwan:
I don't know about the other teams, but half the fun for us is that we're designing it from scratch, with pretty much no previous experience. I wouldn't consider buying somebody else's car, even if just to get ideas. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I suppose... but all the literature you are studying is someone elses ideas....

We are doing our car from scratch as well and its pretty cool. But I think if we had the cash available for a used car it would only help us further along with our own ideas. (Dont worry ... it makes sense to me http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

[Rear]

Greg,

Case Western Reserve University might be interested in purchasing a car. We sure could use an extra one for driver training purposes.

Thanks,

David

[tal]

A bit off topic...A better driver training tool is a 80/100/125cc kart, shifter or centrifugal clutch. The reason i say this is because maintenance is significantly lower, reliability higher, and cost lower. In my opinion if given the choice between buying a used fsae car without drawings(assuming) and buying a kart...i think the kart would be more valuable and less of a headache. Dont get me wrong, you also need a FSAE car for training but i would suggest saving your own cars for training. Lehigh has had a kart for two years and I think its a great driver training tool, especially for new driver training (and in our case taking parts off of... http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ). A good kart can be had for less than $3500; and parts are readily available .

[mtg]

UMR has at least one car available also. I know the 2002 #24 is up for auction. The whole car was rebuilt last year, including repainting the frame.

Email Valarie Boatman for more details: vvbrk2 at UMR.edu
http://campus.umr.edu/fsae/history/p5200018.jpg

[Agent4573]

dam guys. We barely have time to get our car together before competition and you're rebuilding past years cars like that. How the hell do you find the time to do it? just make the freshman do all the work?

[Kamil S]

I love the sidepods on that 24 car mtg. what were they mainly used for? radiators? intake? cooling?
Not to mention they look hella cool.

[Neil S]

If you are interested e-mail her ASAP it is going "up for auction" tomorrow afternoon (not technically "for sale" as the secretary pointed out so kindly).

Agent, we just keep them in running condition so that our members can go out driving on weekends and such. Its also a good way for the freshman to learn about the mechanics of an FSAE car.

Kamil, I wasn't around for this car, but I think its mainly to get extra air flow to the intake. This car was going to be our first injected engine, however it wasn't reliable enough so it was on carbs for competition.

If you have any questions and are wanting to bid on it, e-mail me (nwsn74@umr.edu) your phone number (if your are in the states) and I will call you back as soon as I have an answer.

[mtg]

Neil, your history is a little bit off, young jedi.

UMR hasn't had a carburetted engine at competition for over 10 years. One of the UMR cars from the early 90's had a homemade ECU. The 2002 car was converted back to carbs awhile after the 2002 competition, because the FI system sucked.

The scoops were mainly for looks. The guy who did most of the body work on that car was much more "right brained" than the rest of the team. Although, I'm sure it puts more air across the engine bay.

How do we have time to rebuild the car? With a team of 40 people, lots of delegation, and team leaders that end up with a few gray hairs at the end of the year, its amazing what you can do http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Cement Legs]

kudos to you guys... thats the way that i think teams should function. I cant even imagine the added driving, design, and fabricating experience that you guys must get with cars just "laying around". I really wish we had the budget to have purchased a starter car. It would really help us to have a baseline to compare our first car when its finished. Hopefully the vehicle will be undergoing gravity testing before summers end

[MyDuster360]

Our rookie team at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville, is diffinately interest in ANYONE'S old forumla cars. I already contacted Rolla and Mizzou.

No one on campus has ANY experience building a formula car. We're starting from scratch and having a car to train drivers, get ideas and MOST IMPORTANTLY, have around to raise FUNDS would be invaluable!(not exactly invaluable, we are a new team and have near zero dollars)

The short term bennefits would be great enough that our team would also be interested in LEASING a car for 9-10 months.

Contact Us

Dave Trojahn
Team Leader
FORMULA SIUE
dave@trojahn.com

[drivetrainUW-Platt]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MyDuster360:

No one on campus has ANY experience building a formula car.
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ya, welcome to FSAE, almost everything you will learn will be from researching the net for other ppls desgins and posting/reading on this site. I would say that almost everyone in the program started out with no previous experience in a project of the caliber!

[MyDuster360]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drivetrainUW-Platt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MyDuster360:

No one on campus has ANY experience building a formula car.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ya, welcome to FSAE, almost everything you will learn will be from researching the net for other ppls desgins and posting/reading on this site. I would say that almost everyone in the program started out with no previous experience in a project of the caliber! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm not too hung up on the lack of experience being what makes a first year program diffacult. It's trying to form the INITIAL infrastruture, cultivating university commitments (ei: stroking the Dean's ego) and competing with LONG existing programs for funding and facilities.

hell! I don't even have a place to build this thing yet! Assuming we have a pot to piss in, when that time comes.

It's all the beurocratic red tape bullcrap that bogs the proccess down. Only the few, first year teams know what i'm talking about. Most team experience at least some of this. It's the first year's that have to do all this AND build a car.

Bottom line: An exisitng car would be invaluable.

Don't get me wrong, I knew what I was getting in to before I went to the university(and wife). Just had to vent a little.

FORMULA SIUE will compete in Formula SAE 2006! I GUARANTEE IT!

[Paul R.]

I am interested in an old car... let me know who to contact if anyone still has one they are looking to sell (prefer one in drivable shape). Not for FSAE but mainly for my to take to autocross.

Thanks

[Neil S]

Apparently we are going to go ahead and post it as an Ebay item. I was told it will get posted on there Tuesday, I'll post the link to it when I get it.

[mtg]

Go crazy folks!

Bid on me! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-UMR-SAE-Formula-Car_W0QQitemZ4569189328QQcategoryZ66467QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[tito714]

The University of Missouri - Columbia team has listed one of their old cars on Ebay. The car is from 2002 and has a Kawasaki ZX-6R engine in it. It is a good car for rookie teams to get some ideas from or just a good car to have some fun with. You can get to the Ebay listing here:

Car 2 2002 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-Mini-Indy-Car-Formula-SAE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80766QQihZ009QQitem Z190029511366QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)


Tyler Jackson
Mizzou Racing

[Ian M]

Just wondering if SIU-Carbondale made it to competition in 2006? Building a car this year? May have to run some spring autocrosses together if so, if we get ours done prior to a week before competition.
Unfortunately, we have to tear our previous year's cars apart to reuse parts. Still building a program and trying to find sources of funding.