University of Toronto 2nd Annual Formula SAE "Shootout"

[vinHonda]

Last year University of Toronto ran a successful lapping day at our Downsview Airport testing facility (yes, that's where the Pope and more recently the Stones played!) where we had 9 Formula SAE cars out, mostly from southern Ontario teams and of course, Cornell made a stunning appearance as well.

http://fsae.utoronto.ca/2002/100802.html

This year we will be hosting another event. We have set a tentative date of Saturday Sept 20th, 2003.

A response from last year's attending teams as to whether this date seems feasible would greatly be appreciated.

Also, if your team expresses interest in attending, please post.

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

Last year University of Toronto ran a successful lapping day at our Downsview Airport testing facility (yes, that's where the Pope and more recently the Stones played!) where we had 9 Formula SAE cars out, mostly from southern Ontario teams and of course, Cornell made a stunning appearance as well.

http://fsae.utoronto.ca/2002/100802.html

This year we will be hosting another event. We have set a tentative date of Saturday Sept 20th, 2003.

A response from last year's attending teams as to whether this date seems feasible would greatly be appreciated.

Also, if your team expresses interest in attending, please post.

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Schumi_Jr]

That date sounds good- we'll bring our 2002 and 2003 cars. The course last year was nice and open so it was a blast to drive.

Aaron Johnston
University of Waterloo FSAE

www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~fsae (http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~fsae)

[vinHonda]

Hey Aaron,

This year's course should offer the same thrills! We look forward to hosting you guys again! There has been interest generated from some Quebec teams and some from Manitoba!

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[RiNaZ]

VinHonda, do you know if americans need to have VISA to get into canada? and which airport is the nearest to the Downsview testing facility?

RiNaZ

[vinHonda]

Rinaz,

Americans will probably require a VISA to leave the States...... but I'm not 100% sure. I know Canadians when entering the States must show their passports or citizen cards. The Downsview Testing Facility is actually and airport! But no commercial flights leave/arrive there.....it's Bombardier's facility for testing their own planes. You would land at Toronto's only Int'l Airport: Lester B. Pearson.

Any interest in attending our event? With a car?

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Daves]

I've never needed a VISA or passport to enter Canada, but I've only entered Ontario and British Columbia. You may need to show your social security card and original birth certificate, though.

[Brent Howard]

I don't think you need a visa to enter Canada, just your passport. A visa is something that you need to apply for and get special permission that is trip specific. I don't think the Americans that go to Casino Winsor are applying to enter Canada to gamble.

Brent

www.ucalgary.ca/fsae (http://www.ucalgary.ca/fsae)

[Ben Beacock]

U of Guelph will be there. How fast was the longest straight last year?

Ben Beacock
Co-Manager
2004 Gryphon Racing - University of Guelph

[vinHonda]

Hey Ben,

Glad to hear. More details to come. But last year's loooooooooooooong back straight used top end 5th gear into a very very very slow 1st gear roundabout. The track was bloody fast and plenty of fun as well though; very challenging.

Sounds good. Calgary..... will you possibly be making it down?!!

CHeers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Brent Howard]

I wish we could Vin, but I think as we are currently broke that we won't be able to. Thanks for the invite though.

Brent

www.ucalgary.ca/fsae (http://www.ucalgary.ca/fsae)

[matt giles]

I regularly commute through ontario between NY and MI, no problem. ...So this venue hosts the Pope, The Rolling Stones, and FSAE cars. I like the sound of that. We are considering bringing up the '03 Kettering University car, I'll let you know if we work it out.

Matt Giles
Chief Engineer
Kettering FSAE

[Daves]

You do not need a passport.

[vinHonda]

Confirmed teams: Ryerson, Waterloo (possibly with 2 cars), Toronto w/ 2 cars, Guelph.

Last years teams likely to come back: McMaster, Queens, Western, Cornell?!

Considering: Kettering, Manitoba, Ecole Polytechnique, ETS

Carlton? McGill? Sask? RIT? You guys are all close.

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

Queens University has just confirmed attendance.

Mike, Yuki..... Cornell gonna show up again?!

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Michael Jones]

I just found out I'll be back at Cornell for another year, so things on my end are a bit up in the air...but people seemed to be interested in a return showing. This time, we might actually be prepared for it and everything. I'll push people to give it some thought and have someone let you know what's up ASAP.

As for Yuki, he's off doing Formula Russell racing in the Bay area, paying for it by tutoring or something. I dunno, sounds like a fun way of spending a year. Finished well in the one race he's got points in too...

---
Cornell Racing
http://fsae.mae.cornell.edu

[vinHonda]

That would be awesome to see you guys out here again. Give our 03 car a run.... bring those Yokohama's, and I'll slap on our Avons.

Sept 20th is about a month away, so send me a shout as soon as possible.

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Derek Carboni]

Vinh,

Cornell wants to be there, but right now there's no definite answer. Once were back in school in about 2 weeks we can get the team together and see if we have the resources. Good luck with it, thanks for hosting it. Congrats on the Formula Student championship.

[vinHonda]

Ecole Polytechnique from Montreal has just confirmed attendance.

Thanks about Formula Student. It was a really cool win.

Anyone from RIT? Buffalo? Windsor? Toronto is only a 5-6 hour drive from MANY FSAE schools!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Hoosier Daddy]

Im with the Carleton U team. I will attempt to convince who I must to let us go to this event.

Cheers

R~c0mPs p0w3N!

[Forum07]

We really appreciate Toronto for hosting this event. It was a lot of fun last year and we'll definetly be back this year. See you then.

Chris Gregory

[Forum07]

I guess I should mention what team I represent. Sorry about that.

Chris Gregory
The University of Western Ontario

[vinHonda]

Teams now recieving information and have confirmed or are very close to confirming are:

Cornell
Michigan State
Akron
Dartmouth
Waterloo
Guelph
McMaster
Queens
Western Ontario
Ryerson
Quebec Tremblant
Ecole Polytechnique
Laval
Manitoba
Kettering
McGill

These teams should have all recieved information from me in an email today with regards to all the matters of the event: agenda, accomdations, waivers, maps, etc.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Once again, the date has been moved one week to September 27th, 2003.

We have not set a closing date on entering the Shootout. Remember there is no fee! Just show up and drive! More teams are more then welcome to attend!

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

Bill Bedont of Goodyear Racing has agreed to donate a set of Goodyear tires for the winner of our Shootout!

Good luck to all teams!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Dominic]

The UQTR will be present. We are proud to participate at this competition. Good luck to all the participant. See you on september 27th.
Dominic

[David Lemire]

Hey Vinh

McGill University will be there if we don't break the car before ;-)

Can I have more info about the event, arrival time, leaving time, competitions, number of driver allowed, all is needed in fact.

Our email... mcgill_fsae@msn.com

David

McGill Racing Team
www.fsae.mcgill.ca (http://www.fsae.mcgill.ca)

[Hoosier Daddy]

Hey Vinh!!

Please check your Yahoo email address. Carleton might be able to attend!

Regards,
Eric

R~c0mPs p0w3N!

[vinHonda]

I sent you an info packet. I will be sending out more information soon!

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Ben Beacock]

just a quick question:

how many drivers per car do you normally run at this event?

Ben Beacock
Co-Manager
2004 Gryphon Racing - University of Guelph

[vinHonda]

There can be as many or as few drivers as you wish. Every car will just be lining up one after the other. Once a run is done in a car, you are free to re-join the queue, with whatever driver you want. We will keep track of WHO is physically driving each lap.

More info to come in an email to all participants soon!

Cheers!

P.S. Some have emailed me asking about how long the track, or more specifically, the back straight will be..... as some remember last year's back straight got us up to 5th gear! We probably wont' have that , but a lap will be around 1 min 30 secs. There will be straights, but I doubt using 5th gear. More like redline 3rd.

Cheers!

Vinh

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Schumi_Jr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> last year's back straight got us up to 5th gear! We probably wont' have that , but a lap will be around 1 min 30 secs. There will be straights, but I doubt using 5th gear. More like redline 3rd.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man, wtf... we specifically redesigned our shifter for faster downshifts because of the 5th gear straight into the 2nd gear corner last year http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Seriously, though... that sector wasn't exact representative of the endurance at Pontiac... but is sure was fun!

Aaron Johnston
University of Waterloo FSAE

www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~fsae (http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~fsae)

[vinHonda]

Indeed it was fun! Maybe we'll try a 4th gear redline into a 1st gear bus stop? 3 downshifts is sometimes fun! We'll see.....

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

My apologies to McGill,

I just sent you information. This entire time, there was very little talk of McGill coming. But you are more then welcome to come. Unfortunately, we have not put you on our flyers/attendance list etc. But I just emailed you some info.

My apologies,

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

Teams,

I just sent some information. Please check your emails.

It looks like the event is coming together very nicely. I hope you all have a safe drive to Toronto.

Waterloo's email doesn't work. I've been sending a lot of info......but it bounces back. Can someone from Waterloo send an email? I know you guys are bringing 2 cars....but. I need to send you some waiver/info stuff.

Thanks!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Gareth]

We're definitely going to be there and with two cars unless something something goes wrong this week. I'm waiting to for sleepy Aaron to get up so we can drive today. You can try sending the info to me at gakenwor-at-engmail-dot-uwaterloo-dot-ca though our team email address should work. Have you been using:
fsae-at-engmail-dot-uwaterloo-dot-ca

Hopefully you can decrypt those email addresses. I don't need any more spam...but I do need some more generic viagra...? Call us if you have to at 519.888.4567 x5904.

[vinHonda]

Your email on your website says "fsae@uwaterloo.ca" you might wanna fix that!

That's why it keeps bouncing. Ok. Now you guys are on the email list. We're glad you guys are bringing 2 cars. So are we..... the alumni on our team think their old 02 car can beat our 03 car.... so. we'll see!

I'm sending you what i sent teams b4.Basically..... waiver form, agenda, rules, flyer, etc. We wanna know if u guys wanna stay afterwards for dinner at Montana's bar and grill at YOrkdale mall. Western is coming so we have about 50 ppl so far. Let me know numbers so i can reserve seats.


Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

Teams,

My cell phone will be on for those teams arriving on Friday nite. Cornell's team and the Toronto team will be going out for drinks Friday nite when they arrive. If you arrive Friday nite, feel free to join us.

Also, if you require storage space for your cars, please let me know.

My mobile # is at the bottom of every email. Call it if you guys arrive. If it cuts out, try again....my service provider has been weird lately.

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[vinHonda]

Teams,

We will be running a Formula SAE spec track according to the rulebook.

See you Saturday!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)

[Ben Beacock]

80% chance of rain saturday. Anyone thats coming have an extra set of rain tires that we could buy off them? Goodyear was unable to order any. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
we run 20x6.5-13 and all we have are some street tires.

Ben Beacock
Co-Manager
2004 Gryphon Racing - University of Guelph

[bsclywilly]

Thanks for holding a great event Toronto! We look forward to returning next year and perhaps we will see even more teams there.

Will

Waterloo Motorsports
www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~fsae (http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~fsae)

[Michael Jones]

Congratulations on a great race to all! Great to see all the cars come out even in the crazy early morning weather. Thanks Vinh and U of T for another successful event.

---
Michael Jones
Coordinator, Student Project Teams, College of Engineering

Cornell Racing
http://fsae.mae.cornell.edu

[vinHonda]

Our website has been updated with fotos and results from our Shootout! Lots of pics and a great panoramic shot!

Thanks to all the teams for attending!

Cheers!

Vinh

University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)