US Claude Rouelle FSAE Seminar

[Big Bird]

Greetings all,


Just a quick and polite wake-up call to our US friends interested in doing the Claude Rouelle FSAE seminar next month. I've heard it through the grapevine that Motec (the organizers) are considering pulling the pin on it as hardly anyone has registered. Obviously they need to finalize numbers well in advance, and at this stage there aren't enough takers to make it worth their while. If you were putting off registering for whatever reason you might find it cancelled.

For what it is worth, I reckon it is a damn good seminar and well worth the money, (especially since you lot get to pay in real dollars and not our worthless Aussie lolly money!). You'll learn heaps, and since Claude is one of the head design judges he can give some pretty good advice on what we are doing right and wrong. If I can offer no other motivation to you, Wollongong pretty well booked out the first Melbourne seminar, (there was something like 14 of them there), and we all know what they went on to do.

Cheers all,

Geoff Pearson
RMIT FSAE 2003

Design it. Build it. Break it.

[Charlie]

This is the first I've heard of it. When and where is the seminar this year?

-Charlie Ping
Auburn University FSAE (http://eng.auburn.edu/organizations/SAE/AUFSAE)
5th Overall Detroit 2003
? Overall Aussie 2003. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[RiNaZ]

yeah charlie, this is the first ive heard of it too. The last time i talked to donna of MOTEC, she said something about having a US Claude seminar during FSAE week which is sometime in may.

Please let us americans know where and when it will be held BigBird

RiNaZ

[Big Bird]

Sorry gents, I seem to remember a topic on here somewhere about it, maybe I was wrong. At this stage all I know is that it is some time in November. I'll send a mail to Donna and post further details here.

As a further question, is there anywhere aside from these forums that is a good contact point for the US FSAE community? I know Donna has tried a few things such as the ImechE website, but being Aussies we don't really know what is best on this front. Any advice most appreciated.

Cheers,

Geoff Pearson
RMIT FSAE 2003

Design it. Build it. Break it.

[Sam Zimmerman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Bird:
As a further question, is there anywhere aside from these forums that is a good contact point for the US FSAE community?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A new site has a thread for engineers only that a few FSAE guys check. http://www.tptf.com

Sam Zimmerman
Vandals Racing (http://www.uidaho.edu/~racing)

[Hoosier Daddy]

Will there be a FSAE price ($189) applied to this seminar like there was to the seminar last May in Detroit?

If so then you can count on me attending.

R~c0mPs p0w3N!

[Big Bird]

APOLOGIES!!

A bit of a stuff up on my behalf. Apparently the November Claude seminar is in the UK, not the US as I'd been led to believe. Sorry, the mail I got had references to the USA comp so I misread the UK seminar location. A distinct lack of beer in my life of late has left me lost and confused.

So, details of UK event as follows:

Date: November 16th, 17th and 18th
Venue: Scarman Centre
Warwick Conference Park
University of Warwick
Coventry
Warwickshire
CV4 7AL
United Kingdom

Cost of Seminar: 265 Pounds

Therefore all the comments previous about booking places now relate to UK and not US seminar. Probably should start new thread coz Euros probably wont read a thread about a US seminar.

Cheers all, I'm off to the pub to get my brain back in order.

Geoff Pearson
RMIT FSAE 2003

Design it. Build it. Break it.

[PatClarke]

Lordy me Geoff, I wondered what the heck you were talking about.
See, here I am somewhere 100k outside Seoul and I still monitor this stuff.
Its okay here, but the regular passing of high speed jets with pointy things strapped on under the wings is a little worrying http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Pat

Rudeness is a weak mans imitation of strength

[RiNaZ]

hoosier, i didnt know the seminar cost $189 dollars. I thought it was somewhere around 200 something.

In that case, count me in too!

p/s: maybe claude should include a talk on aerodynamics since the wings is proven to be effective at low speed (read Automotive Eng. Int. magz).

RiNaZ

[Daygo Nighthawk]

Actually, there is indeed a U.S. Claude Rouelle Seminar in early December, out in Indy. Check the motec aussie website for more info.

___________________________________
College is a fountain of knowledge . . .
and the students are there to drink.

[MoTeC]

Daygo,

Sorry but I have to correct you here. The December Seminar in Indianapolis is actually a normal seminar that Claude conducts for Teams, orgnaisations etc. This seminar costs $750.00 US dollars per person. Students are also most welcome to attend, but as this is his normal seminar there unfortunalty will not be any discount for students.

However, Another FSAE Smeinar for USA will be held mid next year. I have not organised any dates as yet as I am awaiting on the 2004 Racing calendar events so that I can work around those race dates.

The seminar Big Bird is talking about is for the Formula Students in UK as we have not yet released an FSAE Seminar to them as yet. If any of the students missed out on the Detroit FSAE Seminar, you also qaulify to attend to the UK Smeinar in November. For more information please feel free to contact myself.

Thankyou!

Mark McCoy/Donna Arbuckle

[RiNaZ]

Mr. Mark/Ms Donna,
any plans on getting the seminar on videotapes? just a thought ...

RiNaZ

[PatClarke]

Rinaz, forget about Videotapes. The seminars Claude does are definately two way events. You really have to be there to understand what I mean. Even reading the folder without having attended the seminar really only gives you a small percentage of the content.
And you don't get to hear the jokes http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
PDR

Rudeness is a weak mans imitation of strength

[A Reinke]

are there details for the US thing? something in the UK does most of us little good.

~Adam

[MoTeC]

Adam and other US Interested Participants,

The next FSAE Seminar for USA will be held next year sometime. I havn't decided the 2004 calendar as yet but hopefully it will be posted on our website www.motec.com.au (http://www.motec.com.au) in December.

If you want to register your interest you can certainly email me to put your name down so that when I do arrange the next FSAE dates you will be the first to know about it and register.

Thank you

Kind REgards

Mark McCoy/Donna Arbuckle

[A Reinke]

are the dates posted on the website for the seminars in December valid? if we wanted, can we register for those still?

[MoTeC]

A Reinke,

Yes the dates posted on the website for Indianapolis in December 2003 are definaltey valid. Again I have to stress that they are the normal seminars that cost $750.00 US per person.

Hope this is of assistnace to you

Kind Regards

Mark McCoy/Donna Arbuckle

[Bavarian Motorsport]

Does anyone have a copy of the notes from the Seminar?

I am looking for the handouts that are given for research and to study/read them.

I have been told that they cannot give these out if you do not attend, however if someone will lend me a set of notes (who has attended), I'll copy them and send them right back.

Thanks, I appreciate everyone's time and cooperation greatly.

[PatClarke]

Bav,
Apart from the fact that what you ask is not nice, Claude's slides are interactive. Reading the hard copy before you attend the course (I had the opportunity to do that, but legally) is not very productive.
BTW, care to send me your thesis so I can copy it?
PDR

Rudeness is a weak mans imitation of strength

[Charlie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bavarian Motorsport:
Does anyone have a copy of the notes from the Seminar?

I am looking for the handouts that are given for research and to study/read them.

I have been told that they cannot give these out if you do not attend, however if someone will lend me a set of notes (who has attended), I'll copy them and send them right back.

Thanks, I appreciate everyone's time and cooperation greatly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The price of the seminar for FSAE competitors is FAR from out of reach for any student. We had 7 from our team that paid thier own way. The notes do you little good without explanation, and I don't think anyone would whore out this information like you are requesting, when the experience is neither overpriced nor elusive. GO TO THE SEMINAR!

-Charlie Ping
Auburn University FSAE (http://eng.auburn.edu/organizations/SAE/AUFSAE)
5th Overall Detroit 2003
? Overall Aussie 2003. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Frank]

yeah guys.

the notes wont help much....

its like subject notes where you have to go to lectures and "fill in the blank bits"

seriously, it's the only cheap thing you'll ever get from Motec.. ( jokes Motec http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Frank ( a former CR seminar sceptic.. )

[Bavarian Motorsport]

Thanks.