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PS
09-30-2003, 09:26 AM
Hi,

Have any of you guys with turbo experience noticed a difference with using an intercooler? I assume that you had 8-11 psi boost, which doesn't really need an intercooler, especially if your around 8-9 psi. But since the restrictor is there, the intake charge after the compressor would have high temperatures. Do you think an intercooler is worth it?

PS

James Waltman
09-30-2003, 11:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PS:
I assume that you had 8-11 psi boost, which doesn't really need an intercooler, especially if your around 8-9 psi.
PS<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why do you assume 8-11 psi of boost?

James Waltman
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PS
09-30-2003, 04:51 PM
James,

Because that's how much other people who used turbos in FSAE were getting.

Matt Gignac
09-30-2003, 05:46 PM
McGill used a turbo and we were seeing 5-6 psi, and still would have used an intercooler had it not been for ethanol

Wildcat13
09-30-2003, 09:57 PM
What do you mean by "had it not been for ethanol" ?

Charlie
09-30-2003, 10:11 PM
Of course, he means that ethanol is expensive, and once they bought the ethanol they barely had enough cash left for a McGriddle and hash brown. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Or it could be that ethanol has some cooling effects on the air charge... http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-Charlie Ping
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Ryan Schoffer
09-30-2003, 10:46 PM
There is no question of an improvement in charge air temperature (lower), and probably a little more power as a result, if you tune properly.

The real question is one of weight - intercoolers are heavy, especially in a light car like a FSAE, and you need to be able to make enough extra power to offset that.

If you dont use one, and arent comfortable with running a high compression 'hot' charge (worried about EGT temps) then dont use as much boost!

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