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At the risk of blowing our own trumpet, our engine for the new car has just run at full throttle for the first time and the map is within a sniff of perfect. Motivation is back up http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Just wondering how the other teams debuting cars at FStudent are progressing. I've seen some nice chassis construction pics on Bath and Leeds' sites but not heard much else from this side of the pond.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
At the risk of blowing our own trumpet, our engine for the new car has just run at full throttle for the first time and the map is within a sniff of perfect. Motivation is back up http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Just wondering how the other teams debuting cars at FStudent are progressing. I've seen some nice chassis construction pics on Bath and Leeds' sites but not heard much else from this side of the pond.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
Just to try and prove the more-weight-means-better-working-tyres-crowd wrong, the Delft car will be even lighter this year :-)
And this year the intake plenum will not keep exploding so we can actually do some driving. Must have been all that race fuel in the air in the Midlands.
Igor
Delft University
Hi Igor, interested to hear that you're pursuing the same concept, would I be correct in saying you're running a Yamaha single as opposed to last year's KTM?
On the subject of intake explosions, I remember discussing this with one of your team at Brunty last year. We had a problem with explosions in our intake on startup. We solved this by running the ECU and fuel pump on separate switches. This allowed us to turn the engine over and suck all the fuel vapour out of the plenum before switching the fuel on and actually starting the engine.
Really simple solution, but it took a good few explosions and ruined air filters before we worked it out.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
vinHonda
03-03-2004, 06:16 AM
From the other side of the pond.....
Our car is race ready. No bodywork. Update on our website very soon.
Checked out registration....looks like it filled up pretty fast. Already there are 45 cars. A lighter Delft car?! Oh gosh.
Good luck everyone!
Vinh
University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)
V2 - Italy
03-03-2004, 07:27 AM
Formula Student Registration
Class 1 + Class 1 (200 Series) = 60
New record and perhaps no places available.
Daniele
Firenze Race Team V2
http://www.firenzerace.too.it
DUCATI POWER at the UniversitÃ* di Firenze
The website says they'll take another four running cars and then the waiting list will be started.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
Ben,
Yes we will use the yamaha we planned for last year, but wasn't available due to a temporary halt in production. Thanks for your explosion suggestion, I'll forward it to the powertrain guys as there aren't many reading the forum. The problem was partly caused by locating the injector in the middle of the plenum, it was impossible to package it squirting down the intake port.
I won't be too involved in the car anymore though, I just got hired at Spyker :-)
Igor
www.spykercars.com (http://www.spykercars.com)
Nim-T
03-03-2004, 12:31 PM
Ben et al,
The designs of our new car are coming along and manufacturing will begin this week. We are entering our new car as a partially completed car for the Class 2 competition. Our old car is in Class 200.
Looking at the IMechE website though, it seems we're the only team to have registered for class 2 http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
With all due respect to Imperial, I don't quite see the point of Class 2. I think Class 3 is logical as a preparatory ecercise before building a car, but Class 2 seems like an easy middle ground.
It is possible to build a car in 8 months and some would say that is the whole point of the competition.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
Steve-Imperial
03-03-2004, 03:05 PM
With all respect: building a car in 8 months is not possible when:
A- The department takes a lot of convincing to let us do anything at all. Bureacracy in getting to use workshops and in ordering materials wastes a lot of time.
B- Lack of manpower. We are a small team of 16, with 12 of those completely new to formula student at the start of the year. Due to the fairly heavy academic schedule of the imperial course we might not have the same amount of time to dedicate to formula student work as people from other uni's (no offence!).
C- Lack of money! The department doesnt give us a great deal over standard project money and as stated above getting money out of the dept is like getting blood out of a stone! We're working on securing more sponsorship but this is hard when youre trying to design a new car.
And finally why rush designing and building a car in 8 months when if we spend longer at the design and later testing stages then we will end up with the better car. This also makes sense with our lack of resources.... It will be a triumph to have designed the whole car and made the parts required for class 2 in the year believe me!
Car 1 was finished in a rush last year and we believe it still has good potential in it with more testing and some fairly major modifications, which we are doing this year.
On the other hand if we had scrapped car 1 and had all hands on deck on designing and making the new car perhaps we could have done it.... Who knows?!
Our entire car has been designed by about four key people and the total team of commited people is no more than 12 at the moment.
Who said we were rushing the design in 8 months? You should be able to do a perfectly good job in that time.
I do take your point about finances, it is difficult but take a look a Toronto's website (and ours to a lesser extent) to see what is possible if you do the marketing side right.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
Nim-T
03-04-2004, 05:02 AM
We will be able to build a whole car in 8 months time in the near future Ben, when we are on our third car and are a more experienced team. Therefore in response to your earlier remark, there is definately a point to class 2. The IMechE includes the class for young teams that have the ability to go further than the design stage within one year but not build AND test drive the car. Just look at the description of it on their website.
Nim
vinHonda
03-04-2004, 06:07 PM
Our 2004 car will be testing in 1 weeks time.
Our website has been updated with some ...updates.
Our team has a small budget.
http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
2004 FIA FORMULA ONE SEASON BEGINS!!!!
Vinh
University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)
V2 - Italy
03-05-2004, 03:41 AM
Waiting list is open.
These are the 64 registered teams:
1 University of Toronto
3 Helsinki Polytechnic
5 Oxford Brookes University
6 University of Bath
8 University of Birmingham
9 University of Leeds
11 McMaster University
12 University of Hertfordshire
13 University of Newcastle upon Tyne
14 Université du Québec Ã* Trois-Rivères
15 University of Strathclyde
16 Luleå University of Technology
17 Lancaster University
18 Swansea Institute of Higher Education
19 Technical University of Braunschweig
20 Queen's University Belfast
21 Tokyo Denki University
22 University of Warwick
23 Southern Illinois University at Carbondale
24 University of Maribor
25 City University London
26 RWTH Aachen University
27 University of Sussex
28 Chalmers University of Technology
29 RMIT University
30 École des Mines de Douai
31 Technische Universität München
32 University of Patras
33 UniversitÃ* degli Studi di Ferrara
34 University College Dublin
35 University of Ulster
39 Bell College
40 University of Queensland
41 Cardiff University
42 Universidad Politècnica De Madrid
43 Loughborough University
44 Shibaura Institute of Technology
45 University of Modena & Reggio Emilia
46 Aston University
53 Graz University of Technology
66 Monash University
68 Brunel University
69 University of Applied Sciences, Hamburg
71 KTH The Royal Institute of Technology
77 University of Wales, Swansea
82 Yeungnam University
85 École Polytechnique de Montréal
86 École de Technologie Supérieure (ÉTS)
100 University of Central Lancashire
101 University of Sunderland
111 FH Joanneum
120 Delft University of Technology
201 University of Hertfordshire
202 Loughborough University
204 University of Applied Sciences, Stralsund
205 Oxford Brookes University
206 University of Bath
208 Coventry University
224 University of Huddersfield
226 Imperial College London
239 Bell College
246 Aston University
247 UniversitÃ* degli Studi di Firenze
269 University of Southampton
V2
Firenze Race Team V2
http://www.firenzerace.too.it
DUCATI POWER at the UniversitÃ* di Firenze
vinHonda
03-05-2004, 10:28 AM
which are class 1 teams?
Vinh
University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)
dancin stu
03-05-2004, 10:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vinHonda:
which are class 1 teams?
Vinh
University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Class 1-200, are all cars numbered 200 or greater, the rest are Class 1
V2 - Italy
03-05-2004, 01:03 PM
Dear Vinh,
you should know the FS Classes. http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You have the number 1, so you have to know the FS rules http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
See you soon.
Daniele
Firenze Race Team V2
http://www.firenzerace.too.it
DUCATI POWER at the UniversitÃ* di Firenze
vinHonda
03-05-2004, 01:43 PM
I just checked www.formulastudent.com (http://www.formulastudent.com) and I see 52 class 1 cars. Very nice.
hhehehhehe! #1 doesn't mean anything! 2004 car is a different car!
Where's Straslund? studen-racing.de???
Cheers
Vinh
University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)
V2 - Italy
03-05-2004, 02:27 PM
Hi Vinh,
Look all the teams above.
Stralsund has number 204, Class 1-200 like us.
Speaking about last year race, which was your mean time during the endurance?
Daniele
Firenze Race Team V2
http://www.firenzerace.too.it
DUCATI POWER at the UniversitÃ* di Firenze
Mi_Ko
03-05-2004, 02:27 PM
Great to se all these cars attending.
I'm specialy interestet in Uni Graz. (because graz is only 50km away from maribor!) They are going to have their roll out in 2 weeks. They'll have a lot time to test.
Maribor is attending too! (without me http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif) The car is an evolution of our last years car (90% new parts!). The biggest improvement is their new suspension sistem. But our guys have a lot of work to do until it'll be finished. (stupid exams!!)
2002/03 University of MARIBOR - Team Member
We're just about on track for launch on 2nd April. Our new composite monocoque is currently critical path, so fingers are crossed.
With regard to FStudent it does merit metioning that there are 17 nations represented in the 64 running entries. It is definitely a truely international competition.
Ben
University of Birmingham
www.ubracing.co.uk (http://www.ubracing.co.uk)
vinHonda
03-06-2004, 11:04 AM
Frank!
Bring German Beer. If the part doesn't fail again.....you'll still need some good drivers to beat me! j/k http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
17 nations is MASSIVELY impressive. I look forward to see'n all the new cars.
Cheers!
Vinh
University of Toronto Formula SAE Racing Team
www.fsae.utoronto.ca (http://www.fsae.utoronto.ca)
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