M.Sc Automotives

[Mustang]

Hey everyone, I have five options for my M.Sc in Automotive engineering

Please suggest me which is better or if you have any other better options, you can suggest them too.

Sussex
City University
Brunel
Coventry
Staffordshire

[Mustang]

Hey everyone, I have five options for my M.Sc in Automotive engineering

Please suggest me which is better or if you have any other better options, you can suggest them too.

Sussex
City University
Brunel
Coventry
Staffordshire

[JR @ CFS]

I suggest Chalmers http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif;

http://www.chalmers.se/am/EN/

The most important point is, the education in Sweden is free, so the money you would spend just to get into the UK university, is instantly saved! Living costs are not much different from the UK and the winters are fine . All courses are in English and the Swedish standard of English is the highest in Europe (they learn from the age of 6 and none of their T.V. is dubbed unlike most other European countries). The course consists of about 50% Swedish and the other 50% come from all across the world. Chalmers takes in 1500 students a year from abroad, so they are well organised.

The university is fantastic and the course is run very differently to a UK degree. Instead of studying 6 subjects each half year, you study 2 subjects per quarter in the first half of the year, then 1 subject per quarter in the second half with a project that spans across the two quarters. This means you can concentrate more on what you are studying and it enables a deep dive into each subject.

Having been through UK and Swedish education systems, I can most definitely say that the Swedish was a lot better (I am a QUB alumni also). They back all of their theory up with current and relevant practical examples (as an example, we tested a Koenigsegg LMP2 prototype in the wind tunnel for our Road Vehicle Aerodynamics course) and have links to some big names in the industry. Unlike the UK universities who also have a lot of industry surrounding them, Chalmers only compete with very few universities for projects and funding.

If you want anymore information, I can get a course brochure sent out. Same goes for anyone else who is interested...I know there were quite a few at FSAE West who were.

[Composites Guy]

Wow... free education at Chalmers! Sweden also gives both man and wife 6 months off at the birth of each child! Sweden has universal health care! And on and on it goes!

But, before any of you of in the US (of 'cough, cough' a different political persuasion than me) start salivating lets remember that Sweden's citizens pay for this with some of the highest taxation on the planet. Here in the US we used to have a word for this sort of society... socialism! It used to be a bad word, and something we abhoared as a society.

You see... for most of us in the US, masters and Ph.D. degrees are already offered AT NO COST. I'm finishing my Ph.D. in mechanical engineering and have recieved tuition and a stipend in exchange for a bit of teaching and research.

Nothing in life is TRUELY free... you must count the cost.

[JR @ CFS]

Getting pretty far off topic there, but then, this is the "off topic" part of the forum.

It is true, tax is high in Sweden, but has been reduced slightly in the past year since a new government was voted in...there are more $ millionaires in Sweden per capita than anywhere else in the world (I think it is 1 tenth the population) But for that, everyone (immigrants included) gets basically the best of everything for free...healthcare (I didn't need to sign my life away to attend the hospital) and education included there.

I now work in the UK but have worked in Sweden and it really is something else. circa 35 days holiday a year, 1.5years leave for new mums and 8 months for new dads (the swedes consider the mother and father bonding with the children at such a young age solves a lot of social problems) and countless other benefits. Throw into that a non-existant crime rate (I worked in bars and only saw 3 fights in 1.5yrs), amazing public transport systems, copious amounts of sports, beautiful Swedish women (and men to be fair) and air so clean it almost gives you a headache, you would wonder why I am not there now http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So, back to the point, education. It all depends on what you want to specialise in. Having been to copious amounts of interviews within the Automotive industry in the UK, having Chalmers on my CV has been a strong point of interest to my interviewers due to their expertise in many fields within the industry. This combined with my UK uni and FSAE experience helped me get my job.

With regards to the US, Chalmers is well known because Volvo is part of Ford and SAAB is part of GM.

[RiNaZ]

you had me at healthcare http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

when you said the tax is high, how high are we talking about here?

[JR @ CFS]

It starts at 30%. I know it sounds a lot, but when you take into consideration that rent is less than half of what I pay in the UK (and even less if you include the fact that rent includes everything in Sweden i.e. heat, water and nothing in the UK) and most other costs are equivalent to the UK. Alcohol is of course more expensive, but if you compare it to living in London (which I have done for a length of time) it is actually pretty reasonable.

But, as a masters student or even a phd student...what is tax?

P.S. I found something very strange in the US...why dont you include tax in prices? This doesn't exist Europe!

[Mustang]

Thank you everyone. But how do I apply?

[JR @ CFS]

http://www.chalmers.se/en/sections/education/masterprogrammes/how-to-apply

[js10coastr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
P.S. I found something very strange in the US...why dont you include tax in prices? This doesn't exist Europe! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To hide the real price... more people will buy at a lower price. That and to screw with the rest of the world http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Mustang]

Do the local people in Sweden speak English? Or they prefer their mother language as in France, Germany or other Europeans countries? Or else later I would end up have no part time work in my hand.

[Wesley]

OH NO! SOCIALISM! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Most people outside of the US speak English, in some form. Or at the very least, the percentage of those who speak English is much higher than Americans who speak other languages. Or really even realize there are other countries.

[JR @ CFS]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mustang:
Do the local people in Sweden speak English? Or they prefer their mother language as in France, Germany or other Europeans countries? Or else later I would end up have no part time work in my hand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Swedes love to speak English, so you will have no problem there! If you speak German, that will also help, because most of them speak it as a third language.

[Tinke]

Does anyone have experiences from any of the following masters degrees? Or if there are any other schools that offer a masters degree taught in english please feel free to throw it on the table.

http://tech.brookes.ac.uk/teaching/pg/msc-in-racing-eng...g-Engine-Design2.pdf (http://tech.brookes.ac.uk/teaching/pg/msc-in-racing-engine-design/Racing-Engine-Design2.pdf)
http://www.master-combustion-engines.com/info_package.pdf
http://www.fh-ingolstadt.de/ei/iae_eng.htm

Obviously the first two are very interesting and would be my choice but the fees are over 10k€ for the degree. The last one is free but it doesn't seem to offer anything new to me except for the chance to learn German and is close to the Audi plant.

[frenzy]

i'm not sure, if that is important for you, but in Germany you're only admitted to a 3-semester master course if you've done a 7-semester bachelor (and the FH-Ingolstadt one ist 3-sem)

[Pete Fodor]

I'd have a look at this if i were you

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/hybrid.asp?typeCode=144

and if you're serious about finding a good education at a technology university consider this one

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/hybrid.asp?typeCode=149