Nice, so Ian and you guys are going to do the April test session again?

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Originally posted by Nihal:
Nice, so Ian and you guys are going to do the April test session again?

Nothing is set in stone, but there is talk of it.

FSAE East 2006 Detroit (somewhere) may 17-21
FSAE West 2006 California Speedway June 14-18

The west coast event is conveniently during finals week for us.

Expect the west coast practice around the 29th of April or the 6th of May but no promises yet.

where did you get this information?

hi all
we are a first year car and we want to be sure we register in time and not to blow it,what is the sae site with the information for registration?
what is the information should each team member prepare (driving license,insurance,etc..)?
is there a difference between locations?

This is the page used for the 2005 US competition...

http://students.sae.org/competitions/formulaseries/fsae/registration/

They might use the same page for 2006, they might not.

This page should contain the proper links to the most current information...

http://students.sae.org/competitions/formulaseries/fsae/

So far details of the 2006 event and registration have not been released.

Good luck!

Ive got some connections at cal speedway. hehehe

west coast event for us is about 2 weeks after finals! yay!

Michigan was hell for us...we all took finals early.

-Nika
UC Berkeley

Don´t forget the upcoming German Event. After secessful Pre Event, these will be an alternativ.

http://www.formulastudent.de

Frank

As for the 'world champion' debate, there has always been some suggestion that it should take at SCCA Nationals. That would improve the attendance there in the FSAE class as well as improve the relationship with Formula SAE and SCCA. And why not, it's a race where they decide national champions anyways.

I like the idea, but I can't see it happening. International teams won't be able to justify the expense to make the trip. There will always be a few teams that hold out from showing up for one reason or another. And it would be a bit redundant to re-run any sort of static competition.

I think SCCA Nats are a great place for FSAE teams to compete, but in the end, its just for bragging rights. It would take a field of 80% of the top 50-60 teams before it could really be looked at as a "championship". With only a handful of schools participating, its no different than any of the various other regional practice/shootout type events throughout the year.

Congrats to the teams that participated and did well at this years Nats. Your quick times showcase the competitiveness and fun-factor of the FSAE crowd to the rest of the country's gearheads. And they should get a kick out of it, they are our target demographic afterall.

Does anybody know where in Romeo Michigan is the competition going to be held?

And what's the closest airport there?

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yes!, my team need that location info in order to make a good expenses planification for 2006 competition

The SAE site says Ford Proving Grounds, Romeo, Michigan... more likely the parking lot of the proving grounds. Closest real airport is still Detroit Metro as Romeo is just a northern suburb of Detroit.

Thats cool.

MPG is about 15-20 minutes further from the airport than Pontiac.

http://www.racingcircuits.net/UnitedStates/mi/Romeo.html

Google Hybrid map link (might work)...

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2001+32+Mile+Rd,+Romeo,+M...9,0.052756&t=h&hl=en

Mnay years ago we discussed having an overall champion in mini-baja, and rejected the idea. These are engineering design competitions and not races per, se.

I don't know what the current thinking is - particularly amongst the headquartes staff. While I applaud the efforts made re: FSAE having its own class in Solo competition, I don't think it would be appropriate to crown an overall champion, and certainly wouldn't think that doing so at the SCCA solo nationals would be appropriate.

- Dick

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Originally posted by UTA racer rikki:
As for the 'world champion' debate, there has always been some suggestion that it should take at SCCA Nationals. And why not, it's a race where they decide national champions anyways.

That would be great for teams that design their cars for SCCA instead of FSAE. But there are teams out there that design their cars to win FSAE, meaning designing for the competition course, and the competition events. With a different course, no accel or skidpad, no business presentation or cost event, no design judging, no fuel economy and no endurance, SCCA Nationals is a completely different competition. Might as well play football against each other. Or see who does better on an exam. Or go to the bar and see which team picks up more chicks (Cornell will, of course.)

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Originally posted by Tony K:
The SAE site says Ford Proving Grounds, Romeo, Michigan... more likely the parking lot of the proving grounds. Closest real airport is still Detroit Metro as Romeo is just a northern suburb of Detroit.

Actually how does 45 acres of perfectly smooth asphalt sound? This asphalt is used by Ford for the vehicle dynamic testing they do and is perfect...in fact timing wires will have to be above ground due to not being able to modify surface.

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Originally posted by B.K.:

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Originally posted by UTA racer rikki:
As for the 'world champion' debate, there has always been some suggestion that it should take at SCCA Nationals. And why not, it's a race where they decide national champions anyways.

That would be great for teams that design their cars for SCCA instead of FSAE. But there are teams out there that design their cars to win FSAE, meaning designing for the competition course, and the competition events. With a different course, no accel or skidpad, no business presentation or cost event, no design judging, no fuel economy and no endurance, SCCA Nationals is a completely different competition. Might as well play football against each other. Or see who does better on an exam. Or go to the bar and see which team picks up more chicks (Cornell will, of course.)

Not the most tactful response, but I mostly agree - SCCA is very different from FSAE. Say what you want about either one, but it wouldn't make sense to use one as a championship for the other.

Erick, what's the story with FSAE Japan? Do you know if UTA went this year?

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Originally posted by Denny Trimble:
Next year, there will be 7 SAE events:

1 USA East
2 USA West
3 England
4 Australasia
5 Japan
6 Italy
7 Brazil

Yes, it will be hard to pick a "world champion". But I don't think that's the point.

Actually though there will technically be 7 events, only those affiliated in the Formula SAE rules are SAE International sanctioned events. Just an FYI...