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Congratulations to everyone.
Some really great looking cars.
Sounds like pretty stiff competition this year.

What's with the extra "bodywork" on the back of the SVSU car? And the pinched tailpipe?

Photo by Julian Choquette

I'm guessing it's a small engine based on the overall packaging and maybe a single based on the twin muffler setup.
Dan Deussen or anyone else have an idea?


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Congratulations to everyone.
Some really great looking cars.
Sounds like pretty stiff competition this year.

What's with the extra "bodywork" on the back of the SVSU car? And the pinched tailpipe?

Photo by Julian Choquette

I'm guessing it's a small engine based on the overall packaging and maybe a single based on the twin muffler setup.
Dan Deussen or anyone else have an idea?


Word I got from another alumn is that for some reason they were not able to pass noise and the second muffler with pinched outlet and added bodywork were necessary to pass it. The engine is still a standard 4-cyl motorcycle engine.


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Anyone got pictures of Pitt chasing/passing PSU?


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I put a few shots from Friday up...

http://evilengineering.com/gallery/v/SAE/FSAE/FSAE08/







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Scores are up on SAE.org

http://www.sae.org/servlets/pressRoom?OBJECT_TYPE=Press...RMULA&RELEASE_ID=794

See file at the end of the release!

1st place – University of Western Australia
2nd place – University of Stuttgart
3rd place – Technical University of Munchen
4th place – University of Wisconsin - Madison
5th place – RMIT University
6th place – Graz University of Technology
7th place – Cornell University
8th place – Missouri University of Science and Technology
9th place – University of Florida
10th place – University of Cincinnati


Congrats!


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some more pictures:

http://bucchi.smugmug.com/FSAE%20AT%20MIS


Kim is Detroit SCCA's close-as-it-gets-to-official photographer, and she had a Ghod Pass for all the dynamic events. Look for many more pics from her in the coming days -- she also has strict quality control and won't upload anything she doesn't think is worthy!
 
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looks like MST should have gotten the meat ball also...

that might even be 2" over the line. Smile


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maybe they could attach a magnetic tether(stop switch like on a treadmill) to the back of the helmet that would kill the engine if your head moved too far from the pad. Smile
 
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survey response....

"27. If you were unsatisfied about any part of the event tell us why?

Besides the rain and cold? Smile

We spent Forever in Tech because the inspector insisted on us taking apart the car to check stupid things like wires behind the engine. We were in Tech for almost three hours.

Brake and noise judges left early for lunch and were partially responsible for us missing skidpad and accel. Suggestion: stagger lunch breaks OR schedule them so that dynamic tech and the running event close at the same time.

Were black flagged for 'aggressive driving' for hitting a the same cone TWICE in enduro. THEN we were not given the correct amount of time to re-fire the car b/c the judge was not paying attention. To top it off, the manner in which he told us were were done was UNACCEPTABLE. Waving a finger and telling us 'your done' with an ear to ear grin is not the way to tell someone that they are not completing a goal they have worked toward for over a year. Some discretion and tact would serve that particular judge well if he wants to avoid a confrontation.

Also, DQ'ing cars after tech Has passed is BS-that is what tech is for. A protest is one thing, and a blatant safety issue another. At the end of the day there is a degree of risk playing with racecars, if its not caught in tech it must not be that bad."
 
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Just like to say congrats to the crew from UWA on behalf of wollogong, great that you have finally done it. We will be chassing you hard at aus this year Wink

For those who we're wondering, yes we were registered for it but a lack of financial forsight meant that we we'rent able to raise the funds nesecary to make the trip in the few months between FSAE-A and putting the car in a box on a boat.

That wont happen to us again, we're planing for 2009.

Cheers, and congrats again.
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UTA and S&T:

were the aero cars loose at MIS?
 
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Congrats to everyone.

A little Irony........

Missouri S&T won the Hoosier Tire Autocross Award running on Goodyears

AND

Stuttgart won the Goodyear Best Performance Award running on Hoosiers


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Congrats to UWA and of course to the european teams...the pot was close...

Does anybody know what the kind of failure was that stopped Delft in the endurance?

Regards,

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Just wanted to congratulate everyone at MIS this year. Lots of nice cars. The competition gets tougher every year. RIT is looking forward to FS Germany in August. Gotta represent the states. Anyone know why Wisconsin isn't coming this year?
 
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Also, DQ'ing cars after tech Has passed is BS-that is what tech is for. A protest is one thing, and a blatant safety issue another. At the end of the day there is a degree of risk playing with racecars, if its not caught in tech it must not be that bad."


I agree to a certain degree.

Rules violations and unsafe parts of the car should be picked up in the technical inspection so that the entrants may rectify the problem if possible. That said, cars should be able to be DQ'ed after tech inspection to allow for car deterioration and leaks; problems that should have been sorted in testing ages before the competition. It is your own fault if you did not build it reliable enough to get through the comp. Remember, most of these guys are volunteers so there are always going to be errors. But would the comp run without them?

It is also not the marshals' fault if they are insensitive to your cause. That is racing; you just gotta wear it.


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It is also not the marshals' fault if they are insensitive to your cause. That is racing; you just gotta wear it.


Thanks for the support. The survey was to see how the event could be improved, and i made suggestions. If that 'marshal' continues to carry an attitude like that he is going to have a much more sensitive jaw line in the future.
 
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Congratulations to UWA and all the teams who participated - what a great accomplishment.

A huge WOO WOO shout out to FAU's Owls Racing Team - you all were and are AWESOME! You accomplished so much with less than ten team members and limited resources. As your academic advisor and cheerleader so proud of you all! Next year I'm not sitting at home ... I'll be there! Roll Eyes
 
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Originally posted by golftdibrad:If that 'marshal' continues to carry an attitude like that he is going to have a much more sensitive jaw line in the future.


Then you can find out how the jails are in Michigan. Nearby Jackson is the home to the state's maximum security prison.

After a brief stay in the hospital to have your injuries tended to.

Don't mess with the white-suits. We volunteer our time, our physical safety (yes, #2 enduro driver from UWA, I'm talking to YOU), and our travel budgets to stand on asphalt for several days so you kids can play racecar driver.

To be perfectly honest here, there were 4+ cars that should not have been allowed back on track after either meatballs (mechanical black flags) or driver change, but tech let them back on course. We were fortunate this year that none of them let go and oiled down the track (or worse).

So how about channelling all that anger into making your car more reliable next year so you don't have to worry about whether or not it restarts?
 
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looks like MST should have gotten the meat ball also...

that might even be 2" over the line. Smile


Yup.

There was also a german team with carbon wheels that had a transponder mounted on the rear of the car. They could have been dq'ed if someone had protested them after endurance.

It sucks that we got dq'ed for having our endplates stick out past the rear tires. If we would have known, we would have fixed it since it was adjustable (its part of the sway bars). Rules are rules though.

The course was pretty much perfect for us though. Everything was good except for the little 90 degree stuff they like to through in here and there. We're kinda clumsy through tight stuff like that. But the back section was AWESOME. I hope tracks are this good in the future.

As far as grip is concerned, its not bad. After going to topeka anything is good!


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